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tolu619 said:

You don't know the half of it. I'd love to hear your explanation for when God tells a third party to tell someone (for example, tells a friend to tell me) about something that neither I nor the friend could have otherwise known, and that thing turns out to come true. For example, God once told 3 completely unrelated people to warn me about the same thing, cause it was a life-threatening issue and He needed to drive the point home. Of course, as I said earlier, you have no reason to believe me. I could be making all of this up. But just assume for a second that I'm genuinely saying something that happened to me. How do you explain it away with your brain trick artist angle, or any other explanation you have?

Also, God created science. I've been a science geek since I was 5. Belief in God and science aren't mutually exclusive. I'm seeing a lot of arguments that sound like "God can't exist because.......science", and that makes no sense to me. That's like a computer program that is limited to 1s and 0s saying that human beings/programmers can't exist because they don't stick to the rules of 1s and 0s.

thank you dear!! I've always been a science person and I have a degree in it, and most of my scientist colleagues/friends are religious too, and that includes doctors and microbiologists

not sure why 'God vs science' is mainstream nowadays

say we create earth and everything in a huge video game, for the characters we are Gods because we control everything

the main difference would be that characters cannot think because we can only program them to react to things, unlike God who programmed us through DNA and gave us free will, we cannot give free will to anything

and this may be a way for science to disprove God one day, if Science can prove that we are 100% robots, programmed by DNA and reacting solely based on DNA and our surroundings, then yes, we are an accident and not a creation

until then I prefer to believe in what Jesus, Saints and Apostles suffered and died for, the lessons they teach me are much more precious than anything science can teach



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

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Im believe in Aliens



I'm just not sure I like a religion (and corresponding) God that claims to be good and just and yet wipes out a whole damn planet of 99.9999% of all life or sends bears to maul 40+ kids because they made fun of someone or allowed (and support) the dichotomous concept of heaven and hell.



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God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
tolu619 said:

You don't know the half of it. I'd love to hear your explanation for when God tells a third party to tell someone (for example, tells a friend to tell me) about something that neither I nor the friend could have otherwise known, and that thing turns out to come true. For example, God once told 3 completely unrelated people to warn me about the same thing, cause it was a life-threatening issue and He needed to drive the point home. Of course, as I said earlier, you have no reason to believe me. I could be making all of this up. But just assume for a second that I'm genuinely saying something that happened to me. How do you explain it away with your brain trick artist angle, or any other explanation you have?

Also, God created science. I've been a science geek since I was 5. Belief in God and science aren't mutually exclusive. I'm seeing a lot of arguments that sound like "God can't exist because.......science", and that makes no sense to me. That's like a computer program that is limited to 1s and 0s saying that human beings/programmers can't exist because they don't stick to the rules of 1s and 0s.

thank you dear!! I've always been a science person and I have a degree in it, and most of my scientist colleagues/friends are religious too, and that includes doctors and microbiologists

not sure why 'God vs science' is mainstream nowadays

say we create earth and everything in a huge video game, for the characters we are Gods because we control everything

the main difference would be that characters cannot think because we can only program them to react to things, unlike God who programmed us through DNA and gave us free will, we cannot give free will to anything

and this may be a way for science to disprove God one day, if Science can prove that we are 100% robots, programmed by DNA and reacting solely based on DNA and our surroundings, then yes, we are an accident and not a creation

until then I prefer to believe in what Jesus, Saints and Apostles suffered and died for, the lessons they teach me are much more precious than anything science can teach

First bolded: So you have always been a science person but do not use it to come to a logical conclusion or have a logical understanding of what religion is or can be,you choose to disconnect them and the rest of your comment has nothing to do with science.

Sec bolded: How do you even know that?Robots today can simulate feelings, and simulated free will are multiple options of behaviour that a similation could choose between depending the situation and if that technology improves to the point it feels real for those robots then where lies the difference?

Third bolded: All the lessons that exist in the bible can be achieved from being a logical thinking good human being but if you need the bible for that then you better use it i would say.(And i mean the good lessons ,not the negative ones)



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Runa216 said:
God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.

Then what are the Abrahamic religions and their sacred texts if nothing but an anthropomorphization, motive interpreter and all around attempt to "know" God?

He made man in his image?  God's will? 

If God is 'unknowable' then why religion at all?



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Runa216 said:
God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.

no one claims to be able to understand what God is, God is the unimaginable

it is not illogical when there are pure good intentions, it is illogical people that can make it look dangerous, same applies to science, meant to save lives, but some use it to kill



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Runa216 said:
God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.

no one claims to be able to understand what God is, God is the unimaginable

it is not illogical when there are pure good intentions, it is illogical people that can make it look dangerous, same applies to science, meant to save lives, but some use it to kill

yes they do, that's literally the entire foundational basis of every holy book in the history of humankind. that's the purpose of religion as a whole. 



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SpokenTruth said:
Runa216 said:
God - as a metaphor for the unknown - is very real. However, anthropomorphosizing 'the unknown' as a figure with knowable, interpretable motives is dangerous and the opposite of logical.

Then what are the Abrahamic religions and their sacred texts if nothing but an anthropomorphization, motive interpreter and all around attempt to "know" God?

He made man in his image?  God's will? 

If God is 'unknowable' then why religion at all?

Exactly. That's the point I'm trying to say. People use God as a filler for everything they don't understand or is beyond our grasp. since something is unknowable or paradoxical, the 'god did it' bandage smoothes it over. as a metaphor for the unknown, I get the concept of 'god'. the issue is that people literally start with 'we don't know, so god did it, which means I now know because I know god'. IT's the opposite of logical.



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Runa216 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

no one claims to be able to understand what God is, God is the unimaginable

it is not illogical when there are pure good intentions, it is illogical people that can make it look dangerous, same applies to science, meant to save lives, but some use it to kill

yes they do, that's literally the entire foundational basis of every holy book in the history of humankind. that's the purpose of religion as a whole. 

the purpose of religion is not to understand God, it is a guidance from God on how to live and what to appreciate in the life given to us, a spiritual identity that benefits ourselves and guides us to help others

religion and priests exist to interpret God's guidance and give it to people, not understand God himself

at least in Christianity, this is very clear

Ecclesiastes 8:16-17

16 I tried to understand all that happens on earth. I saw how busy people are, working day and night and hardly ever sleeping. 17 I also saw all that God has done. Nobody can understand what God does here on earth. No matter how hard people try to understand it, they cannot. Even if wise people say they understand, they cannot; no one can really understand it.

Isaiah 55:8-9

“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways
And My thoughts than your thoughts.

Job 36:26

“Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him;
The number of His years is unsearchable.

Job 5:9

Who does great and unsearchable things,
Wonders without number.

Job 11:7

“Can you discover the depths of God?
Can you discover the limits of the Almighty?



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