It had already been resting since forever, some dumb people were just beating a dead horse.
I know, but I have seen people here and other site still making the claim, and it always annoyed me. I could not resist serving up some crow and bringing it up. =P
Unless people who held the position that it didn't (at the time) have what they'd expect from a new Smash entry also said that "this could never change no matter what Sakurai added", or that they "didn't expect this would change", I don't see how they were served crow.
bigtakilla for example said he expected it to (distinctly) separate itself from Smash 4. That also doesn't mean that him or others changed their position on the state of the game before this reveal.
If people's expectation of a new Smash includes certain things like a focus on new characters and stages, etc, then I could certainly see their point of view there, until those things are added.
Personally I didn't label it one way or another because of that, but I did say that "port" isn't really relevant to the discussion, and that "4.5" is misleading in that it greatly understates how ambitious this game is compared to upgrades like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
But at this point, I don't see any reasonable arguments for this not being a new Smash game as much as any other remaining.
Such as the one you recently quoted.
In fact, I'd argue this is already looking like the most ambitious new Smash game, ever.
Last edited by Hiku - on 10 August 2018