Forums - Movies Discussion - Disney fires 'Guardians of the Galaxy' director James Gunn over 'indefensible' old tweets

SpokenTruth said:
mZuzek said:

That's a thing?

Perk of being a supporter.

Ah, I see. Cheater things.

Edit: also, can we get this thread's title edited?



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Runa216 said:
o_O.Q said:

"you're deliberately skirting responsibility"

can you give an example or will this remain an assertion?

 

"moving the goalposts"

can you give an example or will this remain an assertion?

 

"remaining deliberately vague"

well this is ironic 

 

"devaluing the nuance of the situation"

you are calling barr a racist because of one tweet she made... how is that for nuance? you seriously can't see your hypocrisy here?

 

" I can see you're not interested in actually discussing the matter"

because i disagree with you and you cannot actually debate your points in good faith i'm sure

 

"and are only interested in finding new and exciting ways to support your point without actually giving it value or depth. "

even though for the most part i've asked you questions and not made assertions? whereas all you have done is make assertions?(that you cannot back up) ok

 

"With the Alex Jones avatar; could you be any more transparent in your allegience and bias?"

i think alex jones has a good body, what does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

You write so much without saying a thing. Stop writing out extremely long posts as a response to each and every individual sentence, that's exactly the problem I'm trying to help you with. Stop isolating individual elements and see the whole picture for once. Doing it this way makes it clear you have the attention span of a child. If you were capable of actually reading the whole post from beginning to end and processing it as one cohesive point, then you'd realize most of your counter-arguments have already been rebuffed or debunked in some way. You'll see I've already answered your questions and responded to the baseless critique I knew you'd spew. KManX89 has it right, but I am worried he's gonna be banned for posting that clip (I've been banned for similar assertions of a lack of intelligence in some users on here.) 

"Stop writing out extremely long posts as a response to each and every individual sentence"

i'm asking you to substantiate your arguments because in case you weren't aware, assertions = "You write so much without saying a thing"

 

"Stop isolating individual elements and see the whole picture for once."

lol you mean stop asking you clarify your arguments... well if i did then what would be the point of discussing anything?

i mean if you aren't really interested in having a discussion why are you here?

 

" If you were capable of actually reading the whole post from beginning to end and processing it as one cohesive point"

the fact of the matter is that i read your entire post, understood it(which wasn't very hard since its not unique or original in any way) and i disagree with you...

 

"then you'd realize most of your counter-arguments have already been rebuffed or debunked in some way."

no that's not true if that was the case you would've just addressed them instead of complaining about me asking you to elaborate on ridiculous assertions you never bother to substantiate

again

"you're deliberately skirting responsibility"

can you give an example or will this remain an assertion?

"moving the goalposts"

can you give an example or will this remain an assertion?

 

" You'll see I've already answered your questions and responded to the baseless critique I knew you'd spew."

you did not and its become obvious to me that its because you can't, which is disappointing to me because i sincerely expected more from you



mZuzek said:
SpokenTruth said:

Perk of being a supporter.

Ah, I see. Cheater things.

Edit: also, can we get this thread's title edited?

So worth it though.

So, uh.....back to Gunn.



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Alara317 said:
shikamaru317 said:

So racist jokes are somehow worse than pedophillic jokes then? What a world we live in. 

Is English not your first language or something? 

mZuzek said making jokes is not grounds for firing but racism is. One is a joke, one is for real. James Gunn is not a pedophile. Roseanne Barr is a racist. WORLD of difference. 

Also, it needs to be addressed, there's a HUGE difference between good offensive humour and bad offensive humour. admittedly both what Roseanne did and what James Gunn did were bad examples of offensive humour, but there's a huge difference between good offensive humour and bad offensive humour. Comedy is not being compromised, political correctness is not ruining the art, people are just more attuned to the difference between what's actually meanspirited vs what's actually funny but offensive. 

Take Jim Jeffries; he does great offensive humour. Some of the stuff he says is vile but it's clearly humour and he makes it clear this is a persona or a joke due to the levels of absurdism and the clever setup and payoff to his jokes. Contrast that with casual mentioning of baking jews in an oven or raping children and you'll see the difference between tact and tactless. 

Honestly, I hate to give the troll RolStoppable credit but that joke he made about how Racism was about hate and Pedophilia is about love? THAT is a good joke...because as twisted as it is, it's technically true. It makes you think, it makes you do a double take (And since inflection isn't available on a message board he made sure to be clear to let people know this was a joke), and therefore it's funny. It's offensive, but it's a well-established and set-up joke. THAT is the difference. 

Looks like Jims jokes and humor isn't clearly as lighthearted as some might think once you see behind the curtain.



There is a LOT of unrelated discussion occurring in this necrobumped thread, I think the discussions could either be made into their own thread(s) or move into a more appropriate ongoing one instead. Locking.