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America is a fake developed nation. You only have access to the best care in the world if you're born into the 1%.

For everyone else, it's hope to get a good job that help you make ends meet, if not, for you, it's worlds most famous 3rd world country. Notice how in the US, there's a staggering increase of working people that literally have to live on the streets.



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withdreday said:
America is a fake developed nation. You only have access to the best care in the world if you're born into the 1%.

For everyone else, it's hope to get a good job that help you make ends meet, if not, for you, it's worlds most famous 3rd world country. Notice how in the US, there's a staggering increase of working people that literally have to live on the streets.

I think the irony of it all is that a lot of the wealthier/developed parts of the US are saying - "We want to develop the whole country." and the very people they're trying to help are complaining about it... and not because they want to remain undeveloped but because they are SO concerned for the wealthy people who will be losing money as a result.

But I think it's more like "Ah dun want dem godless libertard commy lefty fascists democratic folk screwing everyone over to get heavily taxed, this is 'Merica; and one day ah might be one of them people screwing over everyone else like mah family has been fer genrations! Reckon me arse dat! Lets vote in Jaysus reborn Donald Trump to faght the great antaiChrast Obama... that sounds like Osama. YEAH! 'Merica's gone be great! Reckon."

Last edited by Jumpin - on 22 July 2018

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HomokHarcos said:
Jon-Erich said:

In the US, the average American pays roughly 14% in taxes, though the bracket can range anywhere from 10% to almost 40%. A lot of it depends of what state you're living in. The poor are not taxed a lot simply they do not make enough to be taxed. 

As for entertainment and tech, population has little to do with it. In entertainment for example, look at how many actors and comedians are from Canada. There are a lot of them. Why can't they make it in Canada? They have to come to the US. In fact, there are a lot of foreign entertainers who either work or live in the US. They're not going to Europe or Canada. There's very little there. It's the same thing in the tech field. A lot of the startups happen in the United States, but a lot of the talent comes from places like India. They're not coming to Europe or Canada. They're coming to the US. Even if you wanted to take population figures into account, lets look at Japan. The US has roughly 2 1/2 times the population that the Japanese have and yet the Japanese have their own success in tech and entertainment, much greater than Europe and Canada. At one time, they had the second largest economy in the world. I think they're #3 now.

When looking at the success rate for blacks in the US, if we wanted to go strictly by population, then arguably, there should be fewer successful blacks. In reality, they're over represented in sports. They pretty own an entire music genre that was invented by them in the US. We even had a black president. Also, if you want tp go back further into history, the first female millionaire in American history was a black woman who had been a slave just a few decades before becoming rich. In fact, there are quite a few success stories of ex-slaves who couldn't read or write but ended up owning successful businesses.

With all this being taken into account, there is something about the United States wether it is within the culture of the people or the freedom they enjoy that allows success to occur, especially from unlikely people in unlikely places. Out of the developed nations in the world, it is Japan and the United States that exports most of the culture and tech. Most of this tech and culture came from people were not rich before they found success.

Canada is dominated by US culture more than any other country in the world. Canada and the US tastes are so similar it could pretty much be considered one media market (and in video games it often is). Aspiring Canadian actors moving to Hollywood is not so different from people around the US moving there.

Also, while I do agree with you that Japan and the US have massive cultural exports so does the UK. With music such as The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and Queen. Novels such as Frankenstein, Dracula, The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings, 007 franchise and the Premier League.

Dracula was written by an Irish author.



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USA has become a multicultural society so there are difference between different classes and ethnicities



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At any rate, the very term "developed" reeks of colonial attitude.



Locknuts said:
I'm not American, but it seems like the individual states have more control over their own development than most other countries, so you can actually see social experiments playing out from one state to the next. From the outside, it looks like some states do well and others don't. Maybe the states that aren't doing well in terms of standards of living should implement policies of the states that are doing well?

Nope we will just let the failed states like Kansas fend for themselves with their terrible ideas gone awry.  Just look what Sam Brownback and the republican legislature did to the state.  They cut taxes like crazy thinking they could usher in new business to make up for the tax shortfall.  Well the new businesses never came (because it is Kansas) and they were left with huge deficits which they had to start cutting education like crazy.  Eventually the only people that will be left in Kansas are a bunch of dumb rednecks.  Kansas might as well be 3rd world country.

That tax cut plan sounds familiar doesn't it... We get to try it on a national level now.  Can't wait till we hit 50 trillion in debt and the dollar becomes worthless since everyone will have wised up that we will never pay back our debt and will only continue to borrow more money. 

The USA should be reducing its deficit during supposed "great" economic times yet we are increasing spending while hacking off the tax income.  Can't wait till the economy comes to a screeching halt and you start seeing deficits twice as big as the years after 08 crash.  So much for fiscal conservatism.  I could try their plan myself but I'd rather not increase my spending while reducing my take home pay.  I'm pretty sure I'd be screwed in a matter of months.

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By global standards, of course it is a developed country. By european standards ... hell no.



Sorry, the "developed", "developing" dichotomy is based on Western European imperialism and colonialism. All countries are developing. The idea that some countries are "developed" and have no more advancement to be had in terms of social and economic conditions is laughably stupid.



sc94597 said:
Sorry, the "developed", "developing" dichotomy is based on Western European imperialism and colonialism. All countries are developing. The idea that some countries are "developed" and have no more advancement to be had in terms of social and economic conditions is laughably stupid.

Compare USA to North Korea.  One could say USA is developed compared to North Korea.