Forums - Sony Discussion - Final Fantasy Vll Remake - Cloud's new updated design shown, comments from Nomura on it.

Hiku said:
Shaunodon said:

Forgive me. A few more blurry screenshots and some art concepts. And a pinky promise from Square Enix that even though Nomura's last two big projects took over 10 years (one of them had to be given to someone else), and even though this has been split into three entire games, and even though they had to remake the whole thing after 2 years of CyberConnect2's work was scrapped, and even though Nomura stated recently that he's only just start working full time on it after finally finishing KHIII (13 years after KHII), I'm sure we'll get to play it all on PS4 first.

At best PS4 could get the first game just as PS5 is about to come out, which by then I'm not sure what the point would be. But if it's that important to play it on PS4 first I hope it all works out for you.

What's with the attitude and the passive aggressive comments?
You hope it works out for me to play it first on PS4?
Is this how you normally behave when someone has been courteous to you the entire time, or did I just catch you on a bad day?

First of all, misconceptions about this game and it's development are very common. If you're going to get like this just because I pointed out that this is not the first time we've gotten to see blurry images from the game like we did today (or whatever set you off), then you probably shouldn't engage in these discussions to begin with unless you're certain about what you post first.

Secondly, the fact that the game is split up into multiple parts was announced shortly after the E3 reveal in 2015.
That's unlikely to be a change in course direction, but rather the plan from the start. In fact, upon looking into it, producer Yoshinori Kitase specifically said so: "The idea that a remake of Final Fantasy 7 would not fit into a single release was there from the very beginning," 
Moreover, if anything, a multi game series means that Part 1 could be released sooner than if they had to develop the entire game from start to finish before releasing it.
The rumor that Square Enix discarded Cyberconnect 2's work completely is just an unsubstantiated rumor, and should not be treated as fact. It comes from someone who supposedly had talked to people working at Square Enix and Cyberconnect 2. But of course he did not prove this. I don't even know if he proved to be who he claimed to be. His twitter account was created on the same month as the Reddit post he replied in was posted. And that Twitter account has 0 tweets relating to games. Just fishing, cycling, camping and workout.
And even if he is who he claims, how often do we not get info from industry insiders that turns out to be false?
So definitely treat that as a rumor, because like I said, misconceptions and misinformation about this game is rampant.

I'm not really going to get too deep into the rest of what you said, but my point was always a simple one.
Square Enix have more pressure on them to deliver this title for PS4, than if they didn't make that timed exclusive agreement. So I expect them to be more likely uphold that agreement, than break it. At least for Part 1.

I personally don't mind if it takes them another 10 years to deliver this game, or if it comes out on Playstation 6. In fact, I'd actually prefer it to be on PS5 or beyond. Because I'd like it to be as good as it possibly can be. And that includes taking advantage of hardware as close to being able to reproduce what they envision as possible.
Square Enix once mentioned "A game that plays the way Advent Children looks" (not in regards to FF7 Remake) and if that's something they could aim for for FF7 Remake, it would certainly be easier to get closer to that on PS5 or PS6.

I never complain about games getting delayed, or announced too early. In fact, I always prefer it that way, and I've posted many times on this forum stating so and explaining why.
So you're barking up the wrong tree if you think this was based on my personal wishes. It's just based on what I believe from a business standpoint. And the idea that the timed exclusive agreement would make Square likely to deliver on that promise didn't come from me, but Maximillian brought it up: https://www.youtube.com/user/Miles923

I forget the exact video he mentioned it in, but it was fairly recent. Though he didn't go into detail about it. But he is someone who tends to consider details like the specifics of contractual agreements like this. Possibly because he often works with, or talks to people in the industry. Whatever the case, I agreed with his assessment.

Just remember ff versus XIII and agent......

Shaunodon said:
Hiku said:

What's with the attitude and the passive aggressive comments?
You hope it works out for me to play it first on PS4?
Is this how you normally behave when someone has been courteous to you the entire time, or did I just catch you on a bad day?

First of all, misconceptions about this game and it's development are very common. If you're going to get like this just because I pointed out that this is not the first time we've gotten to see blurry images from the game like we did today (or whatever set you off), then you probably shouldn't engage in these discussions to begin with unless you're certain about what you post first.

Secondly, the fact that the game is split up into multiple parts was announced shortly after the E3 reveal in 2015.
That's unlikely to be a change in course direction, but rather the plan from the start. In fact, upon looking into it, producer Yoshinori Kitase specifically said so: "The idea that a remake of Final Fantasy 7 would not fit into a single release was there from the very beginning," 
Moreover, if anything, a multi game series means that Part 1 could be released sooner than if they had to develop the entire game from start to finish before releasing it.
The rumor that Square Enix discarded Cyberconnect 2's work completely is just an unsubstantiated rumor, and should not be treated as fact. It comes from someone who supposedly had talked to people working at Square Enix and Cyberconnect 2. But of course he did not prove this. I don't even know if he proved to be who he claimed to be. His twitter account was created on the same month as the Reddit post he replied in was posted. And that Twitter account has 0 tweets relating to games. Just fishing, cycling, camping and workout.
And even if he is who he claims, how often do we not get info from industry insiders that turns out to be false?
So definitely treat that as a rumor, because like I said, misconceptions and misinformation about this game is rampant.

I'm not really going to get too deep into the rest of what you said, but my point was always a simple one.
Square Enix have more pressure on them to deliver this title for PS4, than if they didn't make that timed exclusive agreement. So I expect them to be more likely uphold that agreement, than break it. At least for Part 1.

I personally don't mind if it takes them another 10 years to deliver this game, or if it comes out on Playstation 6. In fact, I'd actually prefer it to be on PS5 or beyond. Because I'd like it to be as good as it possibly can be. And that includes taking advantage of hardware as close to being able to reproduce what they envision as possible.
Square Enix once mentioned "A game that plays the way Advent Children looks" (not in regards to FF7 Remake) and if that's something they could aim for for FF7 Remake, it would certainly be easier to get closer to that on PS5 or PS6.

I never complain about games getting delayed, or announced too early. In fact, I always prefer it that way, and I've posted many times on this forum stating so and explaining why.
So you're barking up the wrong tree if you think this was based on my personal wishes. It's just based on what I believe from a business standpoint. And the idea that the timed exclusive agreement would make Square likely to deliver on that promise didn't come from me, but Maximillian brought it up: https://www.youtube.com/user/Miles923

I forget the exact video he mentioned it in, but it was fairly recent. Though he didn't go into detail about it. But he is someone who tends to consider details like the specifics of contractual agreements like this. Possibly because he often works with, or talks to people in the industry. Whatever the case, I agreed with his assessment.

I only wanted to briefly point out the insanity to think Square Enix and Nomura would deliver anything to plan based on their track record, but instead I got hit with your entire essay of counter-points trying to drag me into a discussion I have no interest in. If you want to speculate over little details that make you believe something counter to popular logic, that's your perogative, but I honestly have no hope this game will arrive for the next 5 years at least, so it feels like a waste of time. I'm just not invested in this like you seem to be.

Popular Logic is the same as common folk dumbness. 



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