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CGI-Quality said:
quickrick said:

I already said for me, i would like her to be a bit more serious show some fear sometimes. imo she acts like a average 14 year old, most 14 year olds have fear of being alone when they have no friends, loving parents or love interest. only thing  sh acts  like a average  14 year old with no fear, and that takes me out of terrifying world that supposed to be last of us, and i honestly think its the one thing games need to take it to the next level on, because its makes characters   more human, and make the story way more believable for me.

Continuing to repeat "for you" doesn't change the fact that you're on a public forum and people want to know why >>>>>YOU<<<<< said what you said. 

Now, to what matters, it is contradictory... You say "mo she acts like a average 14 year old, most 14 year olds have fear of being alone when they have no friends, loving parents or love interest" then say "sh acts  like a average  14 year old with no fear, and that takes me out of terrifying world that supposed to be last of us, and i honestly think its the one thing games need to take it to the next level on, because its makes characters   more human, and make the story way more believable for me". This issue here is we aren't dealing with an average 14-year-old girl, and unless you've lived through something like she has (which would be a first for any living human), then it doesn't make sense. So, the placement of expectation remains a head-scratcher, because you cannot relate to those immediate feelings. And, despite all that, saying she has "0 fear" is completely inaccurate. 

Will you make a good point, she lived through something where she thought she was dead 100%, so i guess that would explain it a bit, as for 0 fear comment, well maybe i over exaggerated, but she hardly shows any fear. Still i thought that could be handled way better for a survival game.



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GribbleGrunger said:
quickrick said:

 I would think if this character was smart she would play it cool, and wait for the right time to strike, instead she does everything in her power to get killed, but hey everyone has different opinions. 

I already understand whats her fear is, but like i said before, for me it hurt the story a bit in my third pay through. maybe i'm getting older and more judgmental.

When I was 16, I saved up and took myself on a package holiday to Africa. I met up with the group of people who were also on the same safari holiday. Early in the second week, we were taken to a lodge in the middle of no where. It was a lovely place with giant moths on the lawns and humming birds flitting from flower to flower. I was so excited that I decided to step outside of the lodge's grounds and soon found myself by a riverside, surrounded by long grass and 'upside down' trees (that was the local name).

After walking further along the river I came upon two men, both at least a foot taller than me, wearing a uniform of some kind and hats with an elephant badge at the front. I was 16. I had no idea who they were. I was nervous but decided not to run because both were carrying rifles. So, calmly I began a conversation, my voice steady because I feared sounding afraid. They spoke in thick African accents, in clipped English, but I got the gist of what they were saying because they kept pointing at my binoculars. They wanted my binoculars. I told them they weren't mine, they were my parent's (I wanted them to think I would be missed. I was a smart cookie at 16), and pointed up the hill to the lodge. They looked at each other and smiled. 

I began to walk back towards the lodge, talking all the time about how amazing Africa was. I mentioned the upside down trees, the fact I'd seen a cheetah the previous day and that I'd not seen many animals around here today. One of them then told me I wouldn't ... because they 'shoot small animals'. Again they smiled. Looking back at that scene as a 60 year old, I can see they were likely winding me up (but that's still only 'likely', not 'definitely'). The long walk up the hill felt like the longest walk I'd ever taken because the closer I got to the lodge, the further back they fell. I turned at one point and asked them 'will you be here tomorrow?'. They never said anything. I continued, 'Maybe I'll see you tomorrow and you can tell me about this place.' I finally got to the top of the hill, rounded a corner til I was out of sight and then ran like fuck.

I was terrified throughout, shaking inside, my heart beating like it's never beat before. When I had my back to them, as a 16 year old boy, I was convinced they may shoot me. Think about that. But I stayed calm, collected and only when I reached the lodge did I turn white and begin to shake. It wasn't bravery, it was self preservation. 

I enjoyed the story, but i dont't get what that has to with ellie character, she been through shit, where she doesn't fear death anymore.



quickrick said:
GribbleGrunger said:

When I was 16, I saved up and took myself on a package holiday to Africa. I met up with the group of people who were also on the same safari holiday. Early in the second week, we were taken to a lodge in the middle of no where. It was a lovely place with giant moths on the lawns and humming birds flitting from flower to flower. I was so excited that I decided to step outside of the lodge's grounds and soon found myself by a riverside, surrounded by long grass and 'upside down' trees (that was the local name).

After walking further along the river I came upon two men, both at least a foot taller than me, wearing a uniform of some kind and hats with an elephant badge at the front. I was 16. I had no idea who they were. I was nervous but decided not to run because both were carrying rifles. So, calmly I began a conversation, my voice steady because I feared sounding afraid. They spoke in thick African accents, in clipped English, but I got the gist of what they were saying because they kept pointing at my binoculars. They wanted my binoculars. I told them they weren't mine, they were my parent's (I wanted them to think I would be missed. I was a smart cookie at 16), and pointed up the hill to the lodge. They looked at each other and smiled. 

I began to walk back towards the lodge, talking all the time about how amazing Africa was. I mentioned the upside down trees, the fact I'd seen a cheetah the previous day and that I'd not seen many animals around here today. One of them then told me I wouldn't ... because they 'shoot small animals'. Again they smiled. Looking back at that scene as a 60 year old, I can see they were likely winding me up (but that's still only 'likely', not 'definitely'). The long walk up the hill felt like the longest walk I'd ever taken because the closer I got to the lodge, the further back they fell. I turned at one point and asked them 'will you be here tomorrow?'. They never said anything. I continued, 'Maybe I'll see you tomorrow and you can tell me about this place.' I finally got to the top of the hill, rounded a corner til I was out of sight and then ran like fuck.

I was terrified throughout, shaking inside, my heart beating like it's never beat before. When I had my back to them, as a 16 year old boy, I was convinced they may shoot me. Think about that. But I stayed calm, collected and only when I reached the lodge did I turn white and begin to shake. It wasn't bravery, it was self preservation. 

I enjoyed the story, but i dont't get what that has to with ellie character, she been through shit, where she doesn't fear death anymore.

You don't see the connection, or the don't want to see the connection? I think it's clear. Ellie's bravery when she was in that jail cell was self preservation. You're making the mistake of thinking she's a 'bad ass' instead of considering her options. That's why I said think carefully about what you think she would do. 



 

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well damn grubblegrunger just convinced me to playthrough last of us again lol



GribbleGrunger said:
quickrick said:

I enjoyed the story, but i dont't get what that has to with ellie character, she been through shit, where she doesn't fear death anymore.

You don't see the connection, or the don't want to see the connection? I think it's clear. Ellie's bravery when she was in that jail cell was self preservation. You're making the mistake of thinking she's a 'bad ass' instead of considering her options. That's why I said think carefully about what you think she would do. 

I don't see the connection. you played it cool, and smart, while ellie did everything possible to get killed, she broke his finger then told him tell them that ellie is the girl that broke your finger, there was much better options like telling them she is the cure for mankind and worth millions, or playing it cool as she  was was willing to work with her and give her time, to fit in, and wait for her chance to strike. instead she chose death, but she isn't scared of death so i guess it made sense.

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