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Should Goku Join Smash 5?

Yes 32 44.44%
 
No 38 52.78%
 
Broly 2 2.78%
 
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Snoorlax said:

What i'm getting at is that what you said is not true, Cloud is not the only iconic FF character qualified to join Smash. Terra could have easily made the game and would've been more appropriate since she was on a Nintendo platform. Sakurai ignored this and chose Cloud because he is indeed the most popular FF character out there so Sakurai just made him an exception but then again who remembered Ice Climbers?

I personally don't know any Final Fantasy characters outside of Cloud and Chocobo and anyone i've talked to that has no idea about Final Fantasy can only name Cloud. I know thats anecdotal, but if it was gonna be any Final Fantasy character it would've had to have been the most well known.

 

I'm sure i've never switched on that part. Look, ROB is a Nintendo accessory, not a videogame character. But of course some people love to play dumb, come up with strawmen arguments and ignore the fact that we've got a Smash character that did not originate as a videogame character but as a toy. Just like the other guy said we've got the Super Scope, another Nintendo accessory, as an item in the game but somehow ROB got his own character slot... Why not then make a character slot for the Power Glove? I'm okay with ROB being a character, he's already there since Brawl, but then there's not reason to reject Goku for not originating as a videogame character. It makes no sense and it's hypocritical.

Because unlike the Power Glove ROB's a character. It's a toy thats a character like GI Joe. A better example would be Non-Specific Action figure, the E3 2012 (or 11?) meme from Nintendo. That was a toy that was also a character, comparing them to the Power Glove or a Rumble Pak doesn't work because those aren't characters. Nintendo has also treated ROB as a character with various cameo's and being an unlockable character in Mario Kart DS and Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Edit: Perhaps people used poor choice of words and it lead to some confusion. Its more than Goku not being a video game character. Goku didn't originate from video games, but ROB did since he's a video game accessory. It's okay for him to be in because he's deeply rooted to video games and Nintendo, we didn't want him, but it's forgivable due to his roots. Goku did not originate from video games and is not Nintendo related, thats why we reject him.

Medisti said: 

You're still yet to disprove the long-standing stance by Sakurai that characters who originated outside of video games won't be in Smash. Until you do that, you have no argument.

Yeah, you still haven't responded to my post where you flat out lied but i'll just say this...

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB.

I think you misunderstood him. 

ROB is a video game accessory, which means he originated from video games.

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I love Goku but I don’t want him for Smash. I’d much rather have him in a game like a Shonen Jump All-Stars or a more fighting-centric game (as opposed to Smash, which I consider a brawler).

However, I wouldn’t be unhappy with Goku’s inclusion. He’s one of my all-time favorite characters.



Shaqazooloo0 said:
Snoorlax said:

What i'm getting at is that what you said is not true, Cloud is not the only iconic FF character qualified to join Smash. Terra could have easily made the game and would've been more appropriate since she was on a Nintendo platform. Sakurai ignored this and chose Cloud because he is indeed the most popular FF character out there so Sakurai just made him an exception but then again who remembered Ice Climbers?

I personally don't know any Final Fantasy characters outside of Cloud and Chocobo and anyone i've talked to that has no idea about Final Fantasy can only name Cloud. I know thats anecdotal, but if it was gonna be any Final Fantasy character it would've had to have been the most well known.

 

I'm sure i've never switched on that part. Look, ROB is a Nintendo accessory, not a videogame character. But of course some people love to play dumb, come up with strawmen arguments and ignore the fact that we've got a Smash character that did not originate as a videogame character but as a toy. Just like the other guy said we've got the Super Scope, another Nintendo accessory, as an item in the game but somehow ROB got his own character slot... Why not then make a character slot for the Power Glove? I'm okay with ROB being a character, he's already there since Brawl, but then there's not reason to reject Goku for not originating as a videogame character. It makes no sense and it's hypocritical.

Because unlike the Power Glove ROB's a character. It's a toy thats a character like GI Joe. A better example would be Non-Specific Action figure, the E3 2012 (or 11?) meme from Nintendo. That was a toy that was also a character, comparing them to the Power Glove or a Rumble Pak doesn't work because those aren't characters. Nintendo has also treated ROB as a character with various cameo's and being an unlockable character in Mario Kart DS and Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Edit: Perhaps people used poor choice of words and it lead to some confusion. Its more than Goku not being a video game character. Goku didn't originate from video games, but ROB did since he's a video game accessory. It's okay for him to be in because he's deeply rooted to video games and Nintendo, we didn't want him, but it's forgivable due to his roots. Goku did not originate from video games and is not Nintendo related, thats why we reject him.

Yeah, you still haven't responded to my post where you flat out lied but i'll just say this...

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB.

I think you misunderstood him. 

ROB is a video game accessory, which means he originated from video games.

Yes, i can tell. Anyways FF has enough characters that could make the game based on popularity because like i said who the hell remembered Ice Climbers? Who the hell is Pokemon Trainer? Yeah Terra would definitely ring more bells than those two.

Yes he was packaged with Gyromite but he's an accessory not a video game characer.

The Rumble Pak was packaged with Star Fox 64 but it's an accessory not a videogame character.

Ulternia said:
I love Goku but I don’t want him for Smash. I’d much rather have him in a game like a Shonen Jump All-Stars or a more fighting-centric game (as opposed to Smash, which I consider a brawler).

However, I wouldn’t be unhappy with Goku’s inclusion. He’s one of my all-time favorite characters.

I love Goku and I want him for Smash 5.



Ulternia said:
I love Goku but I don’t want him for Smash. I’d much rather have him in a game like a Shonen Jump All-Stars or a more fighting-centric game (as opposed to Smash, which I consider a brawler).

However, I wouldn’t be unhappy with Goku’s inclusion. He’s one of my all-time favorite characters.

Yeah, there are other all-star games that make more sense, actually he is in J-Star Victory VS.



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I don’t think that guy that keeps mentioning Rob is aware he is from the NES and made by Nintendo.

Either that, or he just really likes posting pictures of Rob and mentioning it for no discernible reason.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

VGPolyglot said:
Ulternia said:
I love Goku but I don’t want him for Smash. I’d much rather have him in a game like a Shonen Jump All-Stars or a more fighting-centric game (as opposed to Smash, which I consider a brawler).

However, I wouldn’t be unhappy with Goku’s inclusion. He’s one of my all-time favorite characters.

Yeah, there are other all-star games that make more sense, actually he is in J-Star Victory VS.

The problem with this argument is that

- Shonen Jump/ J-Star all star games are mostly Japan exclusive.

- Jump all star are mediocre games

- Practically no one cares about these games over here in the west unlike Smash.

It would be a huge waste to not have Goku in Smash since he's well known and beloved worldwide and he fits in the game.

DAXFM said:
Goku 4 Smash

4 Smash!!



Although I love Dragon Ball, I wouldn't want him in Smash.

Even if we'd consider him a videogame character, he wouldn't be so important as a videogame character as other 3rd party characters.



Snoorlax said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yeah, there are other all-star games that make more sense, actually he is in J-Star Victory VS.

The problem with this argument is that

- Shonen Jump/ J-Star all star games are mostly Japan exclusive.

- Jump all star are mediocre games

- Practically no one cares about these games over here in the west unlike Smash.

It would be a huge waste to not have Goku in Smash since he's well known and beloved worldwide and he fits in the game.

DAXFM said:
Goku 4 Smash

4 Smash!!

The one I listed was released in the West, and I think most people not caring about it isn't that big of a deal since at least it's still available for people to enjoy, as for it being mediocre well not much to say about that.