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Forums - Sony Discussion - It´s 2020 PS5 is native 4k, 8 Tf, 16 GB of ram, RC, 450 USS. would you buy it?

Does it have Bloodborne II?

I remember people belittling specs of current systems and hasn't stopped me from enjoying tons of games this generation. Only issue might be price as can't imagine they'd go over $400 after lessons of PS3 and PS4.



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Sure, but it'd better be fully compatible with my PS4 titles.



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HoloDust said:
Those are ridiculously low specs.

Seems that lot of people forget that PS4 to PS3 is some 8-10x (depending on whether you go by the numbers on paper or what Sony said) with 16x as much RAM.

And that's all for 720p to 1080p which is only 2.25x in pixel count, compared to 1080p to 4K UHD which is 4x.

Much more die shrinks back then though. From the PS3 to the PS4 there were 3 and a half; if the PS4 uses the future 7 nm node (which has nothing of 7 nm in all of them really) that's still only 2 and a half shrinks - and just one and a half from the PS4 pro. And that's on top of increasing chip costs per mm2 and the fact the PS4 had to make a lot of one-time only concessions already to improve its GPU and RAM specs so much from the PS3 (such as a CPU which basically is as powerful as the PS3's Cell).                       



 

 

 

 

 

I didn't predicted those specs. I just ask if you people would buy it or not. It ment to be a poll but I don't know what went wrong making it.



I'm still not sure I'm sold on 4K. I have a 1080p TV and I don't know if I really want to upgrade to a 4K TV anytime soon. I'm not sure if it makes that much of a difference.



 

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haxxiy said:

Much more die shrinks back then though. From the PS3 to the PS4 there were 3 and a half; if the PS4 uses the future 7 nm node (which has nothing of 7 nm in all of them really) that's still only 2 and a half shrinks - and just one and a half from the PS4 pro.          

Assuming the 7nm nodes you speak of are actually true 7nm nodes and not hybrids.

Slap&Ride said:

Exactly! Every generation for PlayStation has 16 times higher RAM amount.

PS1 - 2MB

PS2 - 32MB

PS3 - 512MB

PS4 - 8192MB (8GB)

PS5 - 128GB ?  -  I don't believe it will be this much, but 16GB is nothing for a consol that will be supported until 2030.

PS1 had more than 2MB of Ram.
It actually had 2MB of System Ram, 1MB of video Ram, 0.5Mb of Audio Ram.
Meaning it was a 3.5MB system.

The Playstation 2 had 32MB of System Ram, 4MB of Video Ram and 2-4MB of I/O Ram depending on model for a total of 38-40MB of Ram.

The Playstation 4 has 8192MB of System Ram... On the base Playstation 4 it has 256MB of additional DDR3 and on the Playstation 4 Pro 1024MB.
For a total of 8.25GB/9GB of Ram.

Meaning... Your list is actually incorrect.

That also means that...

PS1 > PS2 was a 10.8x to 11.4x leap in memory capacity.
PS2 > PS3 was a 13.4x to  12.8x leap in memory capacity.
PS3 > PS4 was a 16.5x to 18x leap in memory capacity.

128GB is not going to happen. Not with GDDR6, not with GDDR5X, not with HBM, not with DDR4. The densities are not there for it to be financially feasible.
At most we can expect 32GB by 2020, provided costs come down from their stupid highs right now.



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You won't get native 4k games with 8tf in 2020 unless game engines dont evolve and games wont be pushing past 2013 standards. Technology will always evolve and expect huge leaps again with Engines like Unreal Engine etc. Current gen games on a standard PS4/XB1 struggle to hit 1080p without sacifices.
If you are happy to play games at sub par specs again at 4k than maybe 8tf will do. They will need alot more grunt to find a happy medium at 2160.

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Slap&Ride said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Its gonna require notable content for me to buy a 9th gen console at launch.

Its possible that X1X will be $250 by 2020 and playing 9th gen content very well.

Yes the X1X might be able to play the 9th gen games with reduced everything. But if it sells only a couple million units no one will develop 9th gen games with X1X in mind.

X1 and PS4 will be supported years into the 9th gen. So as long as X1 gets a ports of a 9th gen games, the X1X can improve them significantly without a big effort. I mean look at Gears 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon 3, Forza 7, and Shadow of War. The extra RAM and GPU power are making these same X1 games look significantly more polished by simply boosting graphics settings and including the existing high res textures.

X1X has the potential to be an appealing product even in 2020 at $250. Just as long as its getting 9th gen content and playing them well.

Another scenario, its possible MS will allow X1X support that can exclude the OG X1 down the road. But I don't see games being developed for X1X only. Anything that works on X1X should be functional on OG X1 with scaled back graphics/resolution. I make that assumption because the CPU disparity isn't too significant and I don't think we'll be seeing X1X content under 1080p.



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