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Dravenet7 said:
contestgamer said:

Dude, there's a video game about murdering them. There are people that think it's ok to punch them in the face. 

And legitimate vs illegitimate reasons are a matter of opinion. There are people that think the opposite of you or I. Everything is relative, so eventhough I think Nazi's are wrong and those that persecute jews are wrong, I understand that it is my oppinion and I show tolerance towards the other side.

You're telling me they are killing genocidal sociopathic maniacs? IN A VIDEO GAME!? 

Dude, no fucking way brah!

I thought this thread was about how to make pumpkins!!!! I can't believe they are persecuting the beloved Nazi's with such malice! These mass muderers deserve our resepect and the human deceny they will never give to others!!

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Legitimacy and illegitimacy are matters of opinion? In what universe? In what universe is the FACT that Nazis atrociously killed countless of Jews, threw them into ditches, gassed them, dehumanized them, dehumanized all non-Germans and Germanic culture, mass murdered non-Germans a fucking opinion? 

The underline part is almost hilarious: In other words, you "tolerate" the opinion of persecuting and mudering Jews by these groups, but when these groups are depicted as villains to be murdered in damn video game, it bothers you? People saying, "kill Jews" and "we hate Jews" and going through it on occasions is tolerable but, "This [VIDEO GAME] is offensive"? 

Basically you're saying: 

-"Facts are a matter of opinion." 

-"Nazi opinions and actions are tolerable"

-"The Nazis' persecution of Jews is tolerable"

-"Killing Nazis in a video game is offensive!!!!"

What you're doing isn't tolerance. You're clearly sympathizing with one group over others and ignoring facts. This is not only beyond sad, but completely disgusting.

You're kidding right? I consider nazis to be a bunch of stupid a-holes that I'd never want to associate with. If nazi's made a game about killing another group I'd be outraged too. I simply dont believe that we should be making entertainment out of murdering groups of people. Regarding tolerance, I tolerate different VIEWPOINTS. I do not tolerate a nazi committing a crime. However I dont believe in murdering or punching one just because of their beliefs. I dont believe in thought police.

What is wrong with that?

Do you believe that we should punch Nazis in the face if we see one? I mean theyre disgusting people right, so everything goes, no?



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contestgamer said:

You're kidding right? I consider nazis to be a bunch of stupid a-holes that I'd never want to associate with. If nazi's made a game about killing another group I'd be outraged too. I simply dont believe that we should be making entertainment out of murdering groups of people. Regarding tolerance, I tolerate different VIEWPOINTS. I do not tolerate a nazi committing a crime. However I dont believe in murdering or punching one just because of their beliefs. I dont believe in thought police.

What is wrong with that?

Do you believe that we should punch Nazis in the face if we see one? I mean theyre disgusting people right, so everything goes, no?

That's cool and all... except that is not at all the case because you have been consistently defending them in this thread and have been scapegoating Jewish people. You must think I haven't been reading a word you typed this entire time to much such a statement. You say here that you don't tolerate nazis commiting crime, yet you literally said in your last response, "eventhough I think Nazi's are wrong and those that persecute jews are wrong, I understand that it is my oppinion and I show tolerance towards the other side." 

I also love how you say you aren't the thought police, yet are stating that no media should be created about murdering these monsters in VIDEO GAMES. A FICTIONAL DEPICTION. And as for the the bolded part...

Here's the fundamental difference between me and you. You consistently deny facts and thus reason. When given or asked for facts, you try to act as if they don't matter, calling them arbitrary, question their relevance, and give strawman examples. This is not just in your replies to me, but others in this thread. This attempt to remove facts can only be defined as willfull ignorance. There is no logic in that. Now why bring up this lack of logic on your part? Unlike you, I bring up logical arguments in dealing with the topic: Murdering Nazis in VIDEOGAMES. You'll notice that, I have continually highlighted "VIDEOGAMES" every time I bring up murdering Nazis to highlight how ridiculous it is to be so upset that they are being killed in a VIDEOGAME. Never once do I suggest straying from the topic to talk about something that isn't in the realm of the subject about a VIDEOGAME. You, however, continue to do so because you can't logically counterargue the topic.

Bringing up punching and killing Nazis in real life, in relation to a VIDEOGAME, is ridiculous in and of itself, but you somehow top it off with what you say in the underlined. Justification for real life violence and persecution is something YOU brought up in the first place to irronically defend your poor, vilified Nazis. Something I immediately smashed to bits because of the lack of facts and thus, lack of logic. The fact that you continue to bring up real Nazi victimization (lmao) reveals that you can't seperate video game violence from real world violence. For all these decades, people didn't play the Wolfenstein series and start punching people Nazis. This is absolutely your own personal fear and hysteria talking. Something that you wouldn't conclude in the first place if you thought about the facts. This is why, at the core, all of what you have said and stood for in this thread is beyond sad and downright disgusting.



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Aura7541 said:
Jumpin said:

You're calling me a Nazi solely based on my German ethnicity. It's a slur.

Or perhaps he's criticizing you based on your collectivist and authoritarian tendencies that are deep-rooted in both Naziism and ANTIFA (anarchocommunism).

I don't even know what Antifa is.

I'm willing to bet it's because I write in a German accent!



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Jumpin said:
Aura7541 said:

Or perhaps he's criticizing you based on your collectivist and authoritarian tendencies that are deep-rooted in both Naziism and ANTIFA (anarchocommunism).

I don't even know what Antifa is.

I'm willing to bet it's because I write in a German accent!

Antifa = Anti-Fa scist.

It's basically a loose group of extreme far-left individuals rather than a highly oragnized group with any kind of relevence.
They are happy to resort to violence to achieve their goals.
However Neo-Nazi's are generally far more organized and generally a larger collective... Ironically the ONLY reason Antifa exists is because of Fascism... As Facism continues to grow and become more mainstream, then so will those who oppose it.

They do share allot of similarities with the far right... Which lends credence to the horseshoe political spectrum theory... Which is the farther left or right you go, the more you end up being the same.



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How are Nazis even making a comeback? And in AMERICA, no less?

This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Who knew that there were still so many damn racists out there?



Pemalite said:
Jumpin said:

I don't even know what Antifa is.

I'm willing to bet it's because I write in a German accent!

Antifa = Anti-Fa scist.

It's basically a loose group of extreme far-left individuals rather than a highly oragnized group with any kind of relevence.
They are happy to resort to violence to achieve their goals.
However Neo-Nazi's are generally far more organized and generally a larger collective... Ironically the ONLY reason Antifa exists is because of Fascism... As Facism continues to grow and become more mainstream, then so will those who oppose it.

They do share allot of similarities with the far right... Which lends credence to the horseshoe political spectrum theory... Which is the farther left or right you go, the more you end up being the same.

So... the majority of people are anti-fascist, and would likely punch a nazi in the face - which is an act of violence; or the allied forces defeating the fascist regimes, they used violence to do it. Where does this anti-fascism mentality only exist among only a disorganized far left minority?

It sounds like you come from Mordor.



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Dyllyo said:
How are Nazis even making a comeback? And in AMERICA, no less?

This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Who knew that there were still so many damn racists out there?

We live in a world now where protesting social injustice is bad and genocidal racism is good.

It's quite frightening to see it happening.



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potato_hamster said:
the-pi-guy said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TJOjAKL7Qs

 

Antifa isn't anywhere near as violent as they are shown off to be.  Their crime rates are in line with football games.  

and the crime rates of the nazis they're fighting? Maybe you should look those up. Becuase it appears to me that they appear to commit less crime than Antifa, so maybe you shouldn't raise that point next time.

A.)  The current Nazi's might not be doing immense amount of crimes.  That doesn't mean they are peaceful, and that doesn't mean they have the right to be Nazi's.  They are glorifying a group of people that killed more than 6 million people due to their ethnicity.  

B.)  A lot of conservatives claim ANTIFA to be bad and violent, even though most of them aren't much more violent than a football game.  Statistically more violent, but it's comparing a football game to a protest.  Protests are more likely to get rowdy.  

C.)  I'm not saying that people who are part of ANTIFA haven't done bad things, but that it is exaggerated most of the time.  

D.)  My point is not that Nazi's are violent and ANTIFA isn't.  So I didn't raise that point that you claim I did in the bolded.  

E.)  The Nazi's today aren't disliked because they are being violent.  They are disliked because of what they believe.  Conservatives have similar feelings about communists.  



Dyllyo said:
How are Nazis even making a comeback? And in AMERICA, no less?

This country is going to hell in a hand basket. Who knew that there were still so many damn racists out there?

They aren't making a comeback. It just may seem that way because of two reasons.

1. Peopel are too quick to judge/label someone a Nazi. Not everyone labeled a Nazi is one.

2. Social Media/Mass Media. Between the two, they are giving the few Nazi's there are a platform to stand on. They are showing them on TV, showing their Tweets, ect. Thus they seem again to be more than there are. If the media ignored them, they would be as they are insignificant.

The worst part is, because of #2 a few people are getting converted to being a Nazi or a Nazi sympothiser in some sense. Seriously, I wish they woudl just ignore the few thousand there are. Arrest them when they do bad stuff and that's it. But no, the Media wants to blast them over the air-waves and trying to connect them and Trump as buddies. It's not helping anybody but Nazi's.