The "1/5" number as far as I know was related to the post release sales in 2016. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong there.

Yea, I expect a Pro cut in Sept.  Unless they decide to wait til Nov to spring it. But, Sept is their usual MO. It'll be interesting to see how much they cut.  I only expect a $50 cut since the X is so expensive. A $150 difference is definitely going to be too big to ignore.  Though, I kinda wish for them to go super aggressive and cut by $100.  A $200 difference is a done deal.

The most important thing this holiday season, though, is going to be the fact that the OG PS4 is going to be available for $199.  That's the model that'll sell the most and could possibly take the Nov win from the XBO.

I'm expecting them to drop the Destiny 2 bundle to $399 a few weeks or a month after releasing it. It really depends upon what Sony wants to do though, Star Wars Battlefront is their most valuable marketing deal this year, I believe, as that's the November game. If they go hard like they did in 2015 and put out a $250 1 tb battlefront 2 bundle or even drop it to $199 for Black Friday it would do gangbusters. 

I was pointing out the general attitude of the press when it comes to things selling out in pre-orders. But yeah, you'll certainly be able to get an xbox one x at some point although not the special edition, snes classic likely not after watching the nes debacle.

Dunno why pre-orders can't simply work like you would expect. Put in an order, it gets made, get notified when your order is up. What's the point of limited pre-orders....

Cmon now, any new console these days will sell out in under a day. The XOX is prolly gonna sell a million or 2 this holiday. Question is whether they'll still have momentum 6 months later.

The PS4 PRO is a flop, why is it such an acomplishment to sell more than that?

Like everybody said: until Microsoft release some numbers, it would be wise to take a more "wait and see" aproach.

Australia. Gamestop isn't a thing.
JB Hifi, Taget, EB Games were all out by the time I went to try and Pre-Order.

I would prefer to get it locally so I don't have to be home to wait for a delivery and pick it up during lunch, so that limits me to only EB Games. (Small town and all that.)

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Also got the NES Classic, like one of 5 people in the world to score one... And I played it for like 30 minuits? Haha.
Prefer the SNES to be honest. Games were a big step up in complexity in my opinion.

The Playstation 4 Pro isn't a flop.

Just because it isn't exceeding the sales of the base Playstation 4... Doesn't mean it's a flop. :P 1 in 5 sales is an impressive sales rate when you are selling so well.

Whoops, of course I should've asked you if you were from the US, my mistake. Yeah, a few US retailers had preorders up until a few hours ago, though I'd bet we got significantly higher stock allocations than other countries (along with the UK, probably). 

I agree with you about the SNES. I still enjoy many of the NES games, but each of my favorite Contra, Castlevania, and Metroid games were all on SNES. I was so happy when I saw the mini console has all three of them, along with other games I played the hell out of, such as Starfox and Super Mario World. 

I am hoping there is a second round of Pre-Orders in the next month or so. Last thing Microsoft needs at the moment is not meeting demand when they are lagging in sales behind their competitors.

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I used to be a hardcore Super Metroid fan when I was younger. - I can complete that game in about 3-4 hours. Haha
Shame it didn't have the entire trilogy of Donkey Kong Country, but they made up for that with StarFox 2 and Secret of Mana.