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outlawauron said:
Johnw1104 said:

Ah yeah I totally forgot NASCAR, which I believe I've heard is right up there with American Football in popularity.

I've always liked the regional differences as it's fun to see different sports remaining alive and well, such as the reemergence of Lacrosse. Of course, Florida is mostly just obsessed with American Football (and obviously some NASCAR/NBA), which has lead me to severely disappoint people I've met from farther north when I'm forced to admit that I know next to nothing about Hockey.

Uh, no. Absolutely not. NASCAR isn't near top 5 in popularity. I would even suggest it's behind Soccer and Hockey.

Well I would have assumed the same but, much like country music, it's apparently hugely popular in circles I'm not as familiar with.

This 2012 article from Forbes says that it has the largest fanbase in the US at approximately 70 million, has by far the most spectators attending its races of any sport, and had $3 billion in sponsorships, almost doubling the NFL.

By almost any measure, it's actually the most popular sport in the country:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveodland/2012/02/27/nascars-back/#1fa62db336a1



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HomokHarcos said:
Luke888 said:
WTF why are we #3 ? Football, while still being crazy popular, has been declining for a few years now; Basketball has a small following, the only other big thing imho is Swimming but I've never seen it broadcasted other than during Olympics/World Championships

Was it the matchfixing scandal that made football lose popularity there?

As for being ahead of Germany, I've read that the people who run German football were clueless on how to make money. I believe the Bundesliga was actively against airing their games on TV until the 1990's.

To be fair though, that seems to have done their attendances figures good. IIRC they have the highest average attendance figures of any football league in the world.



Ka-pi96 said:
HomokHarcos said:

Was it the matchfixing scandal that made football lose popularity there?

As for being ahead of Germany, I've read that the people who run German football were clueless on how to make money. I believe the Bundesliga was actively against airing their games on TV until the 1990's.

To be fair though, that seems to have done their attendances figures good. IIRC they have the highest average attendance figures of any football league in the world.

Yes, the Bundesliga is even 2nd among all sports leagues in the world for average attendance (after the NFL).



mjk45 said:
HomokHarcos said:

Yes, I do like to read about sports and Australia is really fascinating when it comes to sports. But unfortunately living in Canada I've never met another AFL fan in my life. I don't get why Tasmania doesn't have an AFL team but Gold Coast does (Sydney I can understand because of how many people are there). I'm a Richmond fan. If we had enough fans on here I would consider starting an AFL thread.

The reasons pretty simple really , Tasmania is a captive market and offering nothing in regards to adding extra games to sell to pay TV since they don't want to go to an uneven number of teams so a relocation is the only way forward unless we became rugby converts overnight then something would happen.

Also vestered intests play a large part , Just like the AFL and the VFL before it benefited from some of the greatest players of all time coming from Tasmania so do today's, Victorian based teams reap considerable benefits  from the Tasmanian supporter base in terms of membership and merchandise sales , that's not taking into account Hawthorn who plays 4 games a season in Launceston they went from near bankrupt to where they stand today and that change of fortune both financially and on field coincides with the Tasmanian deal,  they have well over 10,000 paid up Tasmanian members and according to the club to make the same income they get from a single Tasmanian game they would  need a 70,000 home crowd at the MCG .

Did you follow fellow canadian Mike Pikes career at the Swans and iirc there is AFL Canada check their website  and the national side calledNorthwinds play in an international series.

I just thought that the AFL would have wanted to keep Tasmania under their territory. They already made a mistake before with Canberra, when they could have capitalized. (It's even more surprising that Canberra doesn't have a team.)

 

I really only started flowing the AFL in 2015, so I mainly knew him as that Canadian guy. And then he retired.

I searched it up and Ontario has a league but it looks they play near a forest. My city even used to have a team.



Johnw1104 said:
outlawauron said:

Uh, no. Absolutely not. NASCAR isn't near top 5 in popularity. I would even suggest it's behind Soccer and Hockey.

Well I would have assumed the same but, much like country music, it's apparently hugely popular in circles I'm not as familiar with.

This 2012 article from Forbes says that it has the largest fanbase in the US at approximately 70 million, has by far the most spectators attending its races of any sport, and had $3 billion in sponsorships, almost doubling the NFL.

By almost any measure, it's actually the most popular sport in the country:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveodland/2012/02/27/nascars-back/#1fa62db336a1

Except TV ratings, which is the most relelvant measure of mindshare in the US.

You can cherry pick a lot of interest numbers to make one sport look better. For instance, the average attendance of MLS games exceeds NBA and NHL. While MLS is certainly more popular than NHL in parts of the country, it's not overall. NFL > NBA and then everything else. That's not debateable.



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I'm actually surprised Australia is so high.

I can see why Rugby is really trying to crack USA, biggest market in the world, would offer a lot of revenue.