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Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

This is actually a step back from working with Platinum Games. Im guessing Microsoft is going to pay Sega to find another dev to finish Scalebound. What a waste. Not even that, but Sega games unless they are a Japanese platform exclusively are generally doomed to fail. Im telling you, man. Microsoft needs to invest in studios of their own. This is going to bite them in the rear again. With that said...

 

With that said...working with Sega should bring back some old memories for OG Xbox gamers though. They should make another Condemned game exclusively for the Xbox One. If there was a Xbox 360 game that stood back in the mid -late 2000s out it was Condemned. If they could bring back that magic they could be onto something. A new IP focused on a western audience would help because if Sega makes a Japanese game on the Xbox it will fail. Segas wheelhouse with the Xbox fanbases taste lies in the First person to third person genres and  at this rate its looking like only an FPS can survive because All three major third person games struggled (Ryse, Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break). Make it a war game and you might catch their attention even more. Guaranteed. Its what sells.  If its a known IP I am calling Ryse or Condemned. If it isnt those two then I am calling a new IP.

I think you forget 3rd parties created IPs like Gears, Halo, Fable, Minecraft, etc. As long as MS is willing to throw money at projects they can get new IPs.

Hence, they don't need to create new studios to get new IPs. Furthermore, the trend from Sony and MS has been closing studios but working with more 3rd parties.

Its evident MS is gonna keep pumping out exclusives and funding games from 3rd parties. And more importantly they'll keep getting notable support from 3rd parties because that's what really sells core consoles.

I wouldn't mind another Condemend, but the RE7's modest performance may not encourage that.

I think Fable was developed while Microsoft owned them. Thats true first party from the ground up, just like Forza. At least with Lionhead they controlled the company and dictated the pace to which they carried out their development (even though the franchise never lived up to Molyneux's hype). 

I know they have the cash to make the studios, they need to just do it and stop pay third party who want to do their own thing. Third party dont want to just make one game for Microsoft forever. They want to be known for being creative and having a catalogue. Microsoft looks at game development as if you just find one hit (because they dont have many )hold onto it for dear life and milk it to death. We're already at the 7th Forza in god knows how many years.

With that said, I agree with that the condemned would be welcomed from Sega. No offense to Sega, but I think Black Tusk had the talent to make a better game than they could dish out and actually have it cater to the taste of Xbox gamers, which is usually shooters.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think you forget 3rd parties created IPs like Gears, Halo, Fable, Minecraft, etc. As long as MS is willing to throw money at projects they can get new IPs.

Hence, they don't need to create new studios to get new IPs. Furthermore, the trend from Sony and MS has been closing studios but working with more 3rd parties.

Its evident MS is gonna keep pumping out exclusives and funding games from 3rd parties. And more importantly they'll keep getting notable support from 3rd parties because that's what really sells core consoles.

I wouldn't mind another Condemend, but the RE7's modest performance may not encourage that.

I think Fable was developed while Microsoft owned them. Thats true first party from the ground up, just like Forza. At least with Lionhead they controlled the company and dictated the pace to which they carried out their development (even though the franchise never lived up to Molyneux's hype). 

I know they have the cash to make the studios, they need to just do it and stop pay third party who want to do their own thing. Third party dont want to just make one game for Microsoft forever. They want to be known for being creative and having a catalogue. Microsoft looks at game development as if you just find one hit (because they dont have many )hold onto it for dear life and milk it to death. We're already at the 7th Forza in god knows how many years.

With that said, I agree with that the condemned would be welcomed from Sega. No offense to Sega, but I think Black Tusk had the talent to make a better game than they could dish out and actually have it cater to the taste of Xbox gamers, which is usually shooters.

Just looked up Lionhead, they developed Fable years before MS purchased them. Lionhead was a struggling studio and that's when MS acquired them. Fable never lived up to the hype but Fable II is a pretty amazing game.

When Sony and MS get a hit from a 3rd party studio, they sometimes acquire that studio, have another 3rd party work on the IP, or put the IP in the hands of an internal studio. The problem with your arguments is you ignore trends or have no knowledge of the points I made.

Forza has become a benchmark racing series and the annual releases differ greatly. I find it funny nobody complains about MLB The Show and many other sports titles being annual with typical sports game tweaks yet the Forza series catches flack inspite of doing something unique.

If a new Condmened was going to happen and assuming Monolith can't work on it, I'd suggest the Outlast studio. I haven't played the Outlast games, but at a glance those seem inspired by Condemned. However MS could also fund Alan Wake 2 and there might be a bigger audience for that.



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Give us a new Sega console with MS behind it and Sega in charge of all game development ☺.



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Give us a new Sega console with MS behind it and Sega in charge of all game development ☺.

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Burning Typhoon said:
As long as the games I specifically want to play, can be played on the PC, it's cool. I don't even care if it has to be accessed through the Windows store. Though, I'll always use that platform as a last resort, (killer instinct, etc.) Honestly, unless it's a new virtua fighter, or a really, REALLY good Streets of Rage game, Sega isn't really doing much for me these days.

I think that's what interesting about this deal.

I'm a long time Sega fan and I still play their stuff from time to time. I would love a new VF or a modern game based on a classic IP. I'm hoping this turns into something like Sega and OG Xbox.

A new Virtua Fighter doing a strategy like Killer Instinct ranks high in things I want from Sega.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Burning Typhoon said:
As long as the games I specifically want to play, can be played on the PC, it's cool. I don't even care if it has to be accessed through the Windows store. Though, I'll always use that platform as a last resort, (killer instinct, etc.) Honestly, unless it's a new virtua fighter, or a really, REALLY good Streets of Rage game, Sega isn't really doing much for me these days.

I think that's what interesting about this deal.

I'm a long time Sega fan and I still play their stuff from time to time. I would love a new VF or a modern game based on a classic IP. I'm hoping this turns into something like Sega and OG Xbox.

A new Virtua Fighter doing a strategy like Killer Instinct ranks high in things I want from Sega.

And what strategy is that?  The only thing they need to do, is give the game 4 more characters, maybe take Lau out.  He's old, sick, and I like seeing variations in the cast, it gives you reason to go back and play the classics.  As long as they keep improving on the formula, the game is fine.  It's just not a good thing to watch, unless you play it.



Burning Typhoon said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think that's what interesting about this deal.

I'm a long time Sega fan and I still play their stuff from time to time. I would love a new VF or a modern game based on a classic IP. I'm hoping this turns into something like Sega and OG Xbox.

A new Virtua Fighter doing a strategy like Killer Instinct ranks high in things I want from Sega.

And what strategy is that?  The only thing they need to do, is give the game 4 more characters, maybe take Lau out.  He's old, sick, and I like seeing variations in the cast, it gives you reason to go back and play the classics.  As long as they keep improving on the formula, the game is fine.  It's just not a good thing to watch, unless you play it.

I think more fighting should have a F2P and the ability to buy content piece meal like KI.

I think the best route for the series is the F2P route so more try it. Also, needs better single player content, story, etc. VF has always been a great game but always but shallow in content.



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