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irstupid said:
Sprash said:

no reason to make this personal.

Normally i wouldn't, but he was just being rediculous and unreasonable. Spent like 2 whole pages in the thread arguing that there would be zero internet at launch and would not listen to reason from anyone.

Besides, what man isn't good at that.

No, I spent "two whole pages" arguing that we don't actually know if there will be online play at launch, not that I thought there wouldn't be. There are two totally different things. but hey, why try and actually pay attention to what I'm saying when you can insult me instead?



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potato_hamster said:

Hey man, if you wanna keep giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt, that's your perogative, but you can't blame me or anyone else for not willing to give Nintendo that benefit of the doubt either. I don't think you're crazy or wrong for believing that Nintendo actually has its shit together, and this launch isn't rushed, and its console is ready. I know there's a lot of people that are incredibly excited about the Switch, and they have every reason to be. But there's a lot of people that are bummed out about the launch of the Switch and and have every reason to be. Colin is one of them, and so am I.

Do you want to know why I'm so friggin annoyed at how Nintendo is dropping the ball with the Switch? Because I recently became a father. Because I want my son to have fond memories playing video games in his childhood,. As someone who cut his teeth on the NES, the console that was directly responsible for setting the foundation that gave me a career in video games, I don't think any kid of mine should grow up without games like Mario or Zelda in his life, and I want to give that to him! But Nintendo is making that so fucking hard, because this thing sucks in so many ways for me. I was really hoping that Nintendo was going to make it easier on me, but hey, it's Nintendo.

Despite all of that, as of right now I actaully plan on picking a Switch up this fall. However that is highly contingent on how Nintendo answers these questions, and how smoothly this launch goes. Breath of the Wild looks fantastic, I've always wanted to give Splatoon a shot, and I'm really looking forward to playing a battle mode in Mario Kart that I spent hours and hours of my youth playing. Sure, I will never ever ever use a single joy con as a controller, and I cringe at the idea of spending $140 on two pro controllers, or $260 on two Switch joycon/charge block controller packs so me, my brother and my son can thrash each other in games. I cringe at the thought of having to spend $90 on a second dock so I don't have to unplug everything so my son can play the switch on the TV he uses. I cringe at the idea of having to spend $40-$70 (possibly more?) per year for online play that is probably going to be incredibly lackluster compared to my PS4 and Xbox One experiences. I cringe because my son doesn't have a smart phone, and i have no plan on giving him one in the next decade, but that means he can't play his switch with his friends online. And you know what? I actually cringe at the thought that this thing is portable because shit might get dropped or lost on a road trip or whatever, and as already noted, this shit is expensive.

And these are just the things I don't like that I know of. That's a heap of shit to overcome for me.

Well I'd see it the way that Switch is finally light at the end of Nintendo's tunnel. Basically I know how you feel. I became a father 12,5 years ago, and that was when Nintendo had already dropped the ball with Gamecube, a little like how it was with the Wii U. But this was just prior to NDS launch.

Anyway, if you doubt the quality of Nintendo's current games, buy yourself and your kid the NES Mini. Games are guaranteed to be good and it's going to ages for your kid to beat them.

potato_hamster said:

No, I spent "two whole pages" arguing that we don't actually know if there will be online play at launch, not that I thought there wouldn't be. There are two totally different things. but hey, why try and actually pay attention to what I'm saying when you can insult me instead?

No, but there's no reason to assume there wasn't online play available, as there's already a functioning online on Wii U and 3DS. It is actually you who needs to provide the evidence of there not being online. So far you have been just repeating the same thing over and over that there won't be online at launch, and given "because it's Nintendo" as the only reason, without giving any evidence about why would Nintendo would not want to provide online play for launch.



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Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

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potato_hamster said:
Hynad said:

Have you shown yourself to be positive about anything regarding the Switch? 

Why do you doubt that there will be any online functionality ready for launch in the first place? Wasn't there online functionality from day one for the Wii U? Why would that be different here, when even their website states that it will be available in March, the Switch' launch month?


Why do I doubt that there will be any online functionality? Because it's Nintendo. This is the same company that has sold and continues to sell Nintendo 3DSs without a power cord in the box. This is the same company that made a console that was so expensive to produce that it only recieved one price cut in its five years on the market. This would a very Nintendo thing to do, and should be a surprise to absolutely no one if the Switch launches without the ability to play with each other online.

This is the same company that released a $600 console and told people to get a second job. The same company that released expensive memory cards when other portable devices were using standard SD cards. The same company that released a revision of their most recent handheld and could only play a fraction of its games. The same company that lost a lawsuit for falsely advertising Remote Play.

This is the same company that released a console with a massive failure rate. The same company that used proprietary hard drives instead of letting people choose the kind they want. The same company that thought always online, no used games and kinect being required were great ideas.

i dont see you doubting each and every decision by Sony/Microsoft despite them making some dumb decisions.



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zorg1000 said:
potato_hamster said:

Why do I doubt that there will be any online functionality? Because it's Nintendo. This is the same company that has sold and continues to sell Nintendo 3DSs without a power cord in the box. This is the same company that made a console that was so expensive to produce that it only recieved one price cut in its five years on the market. This would a very Nintendo thing to do, and should be a surprise to absolutely no one if the Switch launches without the ability to play with each other online.

This is the same company that released a $600 console and told people to get a second job. The same company that released expensive memory cards when other portable devices were using standard SD cards. The same company that released a revision of their most recent handheld and could only play a fraction of its games. The same company that lost a lawsuit for falsely advertising Remote Play.

This is the same company that released a console with a massive failure rate. The same company that used proprietary hard drives instead of letting people choose the kind they want. The same company that thought always online, no used games and kinect being required were great ideas.

i dont see you doubting each and every decision by Sony/Microsoft despite them making some dumb decisions.

Don't worry, Microsoft isn't much better than Nintendo, I just really don't care about what they do because I have absolutely zero interest in any of their exclusives. I have no compelling reason to ever buy another Xbox. Nintendo on the other hand is different.

Sony right now is winning because they make it so much easier for me to play the games I want, how I want, at a price I'm comfortable with, without jumping through hoops. Even still, I doubt a lot of the decisions that Sony makes actually (I recently railed against them for releasing the PS4 Pro, and only calmed down about it because they made it in the least bad way possible) Over all though, Sony actually make more decisions I agree with than bad ones. Nintendo makes almost entirely horrible decisions in hardware and has for the five years or so. Every piece of hardware they've released in that period has been tainted with at least one completely nonsensical decision that shows how completely out of touch they are. 

Nintendo makes great games people want to play and then gives people reason after reason after reason to not buy them.



bdbdbd said:

Well I'd see it the way that Switch is finally light at the end of Nintendo's tunnel. Basically I know how you feel. I became a father 12,5 years ago, and that was when Nintendo had already dropped the ball with Gamecube, a little like how it was with the Wii U. But this was just prior to NDS launch.

Anyway, if you doubt the quality of Nintendo's current games, buy yourself and your kid the NES Mini. Games are guaranteed to be good and it's going to ages for your kid to beat them.

I don't need to buy an NES classic. I have a regular NES and a pile of games still:) Not that I haven't been trying, but nowhere here has had any stock. I stood in line for 3 hours to be #14 in a line for a store that got 12. Even still the cords on the controller are 2 feet long. So I have to buy extensions for that just to sit on my couch and play the thing. See, It's the little, totally and completely unnecessary things that Nintendo does that just drives me nuts and makes me not want to give them my money.

bdbdbd said:

No, but there's no reason to assume there wasn't online play available, as there's already a functioning online on Wii U and 3DS. It is actually you who needs to provide the evidence of there not being online. So far you have been just repeating the same thing over and over that there won't be online at launch, and given "because it's Nintendo" as the only reason, without giving any evidence about why would Nintendo would not want to provide online play for launch.

My whole point is that Nintendo has been total shit at communicating even basic information. It's just so frustratingly unnecessary. It's sad that we even have to assume that basic things like online play are going to be there at launch. All they have to do is change their wording to makethings very clear. But I don't know about you, but their consistent use of vague phrases makes a sinking feeling in my stomach that there's a nugget of shit beneah the surface of the Switch launch, and Nintendo is hiding it.