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CosmicSex said:

Oh wow.   How did this happen.  Does this mean that the PS4 won all 5 weeks on Amazon?

Pretty much. It was pretty close for Christmas week, but weeks 1 & 2 the PS4 won by at least a 2:1 ratio, and Week 5 is shaping up to be even more lopsided. The PS4 also had a win for Week 3. With the Star Wars bundle at #3 for the month and the Gears bundle at #15, December NPD will likely see the PS4 win by a fairly comfortable margin.





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The Xbox One has way too many bundle's, and now they're all way down the list. Out of the 8 bundle's it has, only 1 in the top 100. They need to ship less next year, as they had way to many this year.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Shadow1980 said:
Here's today's update to the monthly ranks:

PS4 Star Wars basic bundle: #3 (—)
XBO Gears bundle: either #15 (—)
PS4 NDC (disc) bundle: #39 (—)
New 3DS XL (black): #42 (↓1)
XBO 1TB 3-game bundle: #54 (↓1)
Wii U MK8 bundle: #57 (—)
PS4 COD bundle: #94 (—)


And here's the update for Week 5:

PS4 COD bundle (standard): #28 (↑4)
PS4 Star Wars bundle: #38 (↑3)
New 3DS XL (Black): #62 (↑4)
XBO Gears bundle: #76 (↑1)

The week 5 numbers are attrocious for the X1 perspectives in January.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Here's today's update to the monthly ranks:

PS4 Star Wars basic bundle: #3 (—)
XBO Gears bundle: either #15 (—)
PS4 NDC (disc) bundle: #40 (↓1)
New 3DS XL (black): #41 (↑1)
XBO 1TB 3-game bundle: #55 (↓1)
Wii U MK8 bundle: #57 (—)
PS4 COD bundle: #88 (↑6)

The final numbers for December should be tomorrow.


And here's the update for Week 5:

PS4 COD bundle (standard): #25 (↑3)
PS4 Star Wars bundle: #39 (↓1)
New 3DS XL (Black): #55 (↑7)
XBO Gears bundle: #72 (↑4)



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barneystinson69 said:
binary solo said:
brute said:
It will be tough for Microsoft to ever win with price parity, especially now that Halo isn't what it was, they really need to try and make Halo big like it used to be.

 

MS needs to do what Nintendo did with Splatoon take a genre they're not known for and create something completely fresh and amazing. Trouble is MS doesn't have the game making geniuses of Nintendo.



The reason Halo didn't sell console's is because there wasn't a standard bundle. Sorry, but I wouldn't pay 500$ for an XB1 either. On top of the fact they lost COD, and Sony had star wars, it was obvious as to why Microsoft was going to lose.

while a standard bundle might have been enough Halo no longer has the pull that it did in the 7th gen. Halo is only selling to old school Halo fans now, so it's not going to bring in a new audience over and above the fans who have loved Halo from the beginning. Therefore MS needs another iconic game series in a totally different genre. And yeah, MS needs to get some 3rd party marketing deals for key games. Problem is the CoD deal is likely to be a multi year deal, probably till the end of the generation and there's virtually no bigger deal. MS is pretty much at a point of coasting through the generation doing what's needed to maintain current levels and start planning for next gen.

 





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DonFerrari said:

The week 5 numbers are attrocious for the X1 perspectives in January.

The absolute rankings will improve for all systems (check the current hourlies), but the relative rankings still aren't very encouraging for the XBO's prospects this month. The COD bundle is far enough ahead of the Gears bundle and the Star Wars bundle close enough behind the Gears bundle for the PS4 to have been at a nearly 2:1 (if not over 2:1) advantage at Amazon for several days now, and for several days before that the PS4 had an unambiguous 2:1 lead. GameStop.com is telling the same story, with the PS4 at an over 2:1 lead as the XBO is barely registering while the top PS4 SKU is doing very well. At BestBuy.com it's not as lopsided, but with the COD bundle staying at #1 and the Gears bundle hovering around #13-14, the PS4 still likely has a comfortable lead.

While I don't think January's NPD will result in a roughly 2:1 win, it's certainly not inconceivable. The PS4 sold 92.2% more units than the XBO in January 2014, though at the time the XBO was still at $500. Last January the PS4 had a pretty big drop from the previous January, while the XBO grew slightly, but even then at $50 below parity for most of the month the XBO still was outsold by the PS4 by about 26.3%.

As it got a price cut to $350 back in October, the PS4 should rebound from where it was last January, maybe even pulling numbers close to Jan. '14. Meanwhile, the XBO might not grow as much. Granted, it was bumped back to $400 for 13 days last January, which hurt it a bit, but aside from that it was at at $350 through the entire remainder of the year (sans the Black Friday and Christmas sales). Here's the XBO's per-week averages through the first ten months of 2015:

There was a spike in February due to tax season, another spike in June due to the release of the new 1TB SKU, and another spike in October due to Halo 5. Take out those three months and January and you have an overall weekly average of about 47k per week. At most, the XBO will pull in the neighborhood of 200k. The PS4 staying at $400 for most of 2015 resulted in its sales through the first half of the year being overall flat from 2014, so we shouldn't expect any appreciable growth with the XBO either with it likely staying at $350 for the time being. Overall, I think the PS4 will beat the XBO by at least 30%, perhaps over 40%.

However, it's also possible that with the PS4 being at parity it will grow its overall market share at the expense of the XBO, and the XBO could shrink YoY, and the gap could grow to where the PS4 sells 50%, 60%, or possibly even 70% more units than the XBO this month. While January is usually a fairly boring month, I think it can provide some insight on how well the XBO can continue to sustain itself at $350, and what effects on market share the PS4 being reduced to $350 as well will have. This is the first time the PS4 and XBO have been at price parity outside the holidays for an entire month since October 2014, but this time the PS4 was the one with the most recent price cut.



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Shadow1980 said:
DonFerrari said:

The week 5 numbers are attrocious for the X1 perspectives in January.

The absolute rankings will improve for all systems (check the current hourlies), but the relative rankings still aren't very encouraging for the XBO's prospects this month. The COD bundle is far enough ahead of the Gears bundle and the Star Wars bundle close enough behind the Gears bundle for the PS4 to have been at a nearly 2:1 (if not over 2:1) advantage at Amazon for several days now, and for several days before that the PS4 had an unambiguous 2:1 lead. GameStop.com is telling the same story, with the PS4 at an over 2:1 lead as the XBO is barely registering while the top PS4 SKU is doing very well. At BestBuy.com it's not as lopsided, but with the COD bundle staying at #1 and the Gears bundle hovering around #13-14, the PS4 still likely has a comfortable lead.

While I don't think January's NPD will result in a roughly 2:1 win, it's certainly not inconceivable. The PS4 sold 92.2% more units than the XBO in January 2014, though at the time the XBO was still at $500. Last January the PS4 had a pretty big drop from the previous January, while the XBO grew slightly, but even then at $50 below parity for most of the month the XBO still was outsold by the PS4 by about 26.3%.

As it got a price cut to $350 back in October, the PS4 should rebound from where it was last January, maybe even pulling numbers close to Jan. '14. Meanwhile, the XBO might not grow as much. Granted, it was bumped back to $400 for 13 days last January, which hurt it a bit, but aside from that it was at at $350 through the entire remainder of the year (sans the Black Friday and Christmas sales). Here's the XBO's per-week averages through the first ten months of 2015:

There was a spike in February due to tax season, another spike in June due to the release of the new 1TB SKU, and another spike in October due to Halo 5. Take out those three months and January and you have an overall weekly average of about 47k per week. At most, the XBO will pull in the neighborhood of 200k. The PS4 staying at $400 for most of 2015 resulted in its sales through the first half of the year being overall flat from 2014, so we shouldn't expect any appreciable growth with the XBO either with it likely staying at $350 for the time being. Overall, I think the PS4 will beat the XBO by at least 30%, perhaps over 40%.

However, it's also possible that with the PS4 being at parity it will grow its overall market share at the expense of the XBO, and the XBO could shrink YoY, and the gap could grow to where the PS4 sells 50%, 60%, or possibly even 70% more units than the XBO this month. While January is usually a fairly boring month, I think it can provide some insight on how well the XBO can continue to sustain itself at $350, and what effects on market share the PS4 being reduced to $350 as well will have. This is the first time the PS4 and XBO have been at price parity outside the holidays for an entire month since October 2014, but this time the PS4 was the one with the most recent price cut.

I believe you are right and that isn't very good to X1 not only in January but as long as it doesn't drop bellow 300,00 it will have major defeats at most NPDS again.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Today's update is running a bit late because Amazon hasn't updated the monthlies or weeklies yet. They usually have everything updated at around 4:00 PM Eastern.



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Here are the final December rankings:

PS4 Star Wars basic bundle: #3
XBO Gears bundle: either #15
PS4 NDC (disc) bundle: #40
New 3DS XL (black): #41
XBO 1TB 3-game bundle: #55
Wii U MK8 bundle: #57
PS4 COD bundle: #88

Teeqoz just needs to update the OP and that'll be all she wrote for December proper.

Now for the updated Week 5 rankings:

PS4 COD bundle (standard): #27 (↓2)
PS4 Star Wars bundle: #52 (↓13)
New 3DS XL (Black): #55 (—)
XBO Gears bundle: #71 (↑1)

Since there was no update yesterday, those changes in rank may represent two days worth of changes. I guess we'll find out for sure later this week. Normally the initially ranks for the new week show up on Thursday, so if they show up on Friday then that means Amazon is now running five days behind the actual date for the weekly (and presumably also monthly) rankings.



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Is there a January thread yet?