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Nearly 3,5 years later, Japanese developers are still behind many of this gen's best rated AAA games.

97 Red Dead Redemption 2 (PS4, XB1)
97 Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, XB1, PC)
97 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch)
97 Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
95 The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
94 God of War (PS4)
93 Divinity: Original Sin II (PS4, XB1, PC)
93 Persona 5 (PS4)
93 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (PS4, XB1, PC)
93 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
93 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Switch)
92 Forza Horizon 4 (XB1)
92 Bloodborne (PS4)
92 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (PS4, XB1, PC)
92 Bayonetta 2 (Switch)
92 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch)
91 Forza Horizon 3 (XB1)
91 Shadow of the Colossus (PS4)
91 NieR: Automata (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Resident Evil 2 (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Diablo III (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
90 Overwatch (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Rayman Legends (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
90 Monster Hunter: World (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Astro Bot: Rescue Mission (PS4)
90 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (PS4, XB1, PC)

The West really thrives when it comes to independent and smaller games though.

93 Inside (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
92 Journey (PS4)
92 Celeste (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
92 Undertale (PS4, Switch, PC)
91 Sonic Mania Plus (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 SteamWorld Heist (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 Shovel Knight (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 Flower (PS4)
90 Fez (PS4, PC)
90 Hollow Knight (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)



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Replicant said:

Nearly 3,5 years later, Japanese developers are still behind many of this gen's best rated AAA games.

97 Red Dead Redemption 2 (PS4, XB1)
97 Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, XB1, PC)
97 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch)
97 Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
95 The Last of Us Remastered (PS4)
94 God of War (PS4)
93 Divinity: Original Sin II (PS4, XB1, PC)
93 Persona 5 (PS4)
93 Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain (PS4, XB1, PC)
93 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (PS4)
93 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Switch)
92 Forza Horizon 4 (XB1)
92 Bloodborne (PS4)
92 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (PS4, XB1, PC)
92 Bayonetta 2 (Switch)
92 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch)
91 Forza Horizon 3 (XB1)
91 Shadow of the Colossus (PS4)
91 NieR: Automata (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Resident Evil 2 (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Diablo III (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
90 Overwatch (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Rayman Legends (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
90 Monster Hunter: World (PS4, XB1, PC)
90 Astro Bot: Rescue Mission (PS4)
90 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (PS4, XB1, PC)

The West really thrives when it comes to independent and smaller games though.

93 Inside (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
92 Journey (PS4)
92 Celeste (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
92 Undertale (PS4, Switch, PC)
91 Sonic Mania Plus (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 SteamWorld Heist (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 Shovel Knight (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)
91 Flower (PS4)
90 Fez (PS4, PC)
90 Hollow Knight (PS4, XB1, Switch, PC)

Lol when you said "behind" I thought you were implying West > Japan, and I looked at your list and thought "Did he even see that list? Most of those titles are either rated the same or just very slightly giving the nod to the west, Japan still has a lot of titles on that list!" 

On your list it's 13 vs 13 for both. Although I think it's worth mentioning The Last of Us Remastered and Grand Theft Auto V are not original games. 

Also, Shadow of the Colossus is a Japanese game, even if it was remade in the West. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

1. Lol when you said "behind" I thought you were implying West > Japan, and I looked at your list and thought "Did he even see that list? Most of those titles are either rated the same or just very slightly giving the nod to the west, Japan still has a lot of titles on that list!"

2. On your list it's 13 vs 13 for both. Although I think it's worth mentioning The Last of Us Remastered and Grand Theft Auto V are not original games.

3. Also, Shadow of the Colossus is a Japanese game, even if it was remade in the West.

1. Oh, I see how it may sound like that. No, it's definitely impressive that a single country manages to give us as many great games as the entire remaining world.

2. That's true. There are some ports from last gen. I think 6, right? GTAV, TLOU, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Diablo 3, and Rayman Legends.

3. Good point. Yet another game that exists thanks to Japan.



But western developers are waay ahead in regards to modern design sensibilities. If I play one more Japanese game where I gotta talk to a later to climb it, I'm gonna drop it right then and there.



Replicant said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

1. Lol when you said "behind" I thought you were implying West > Japan, and I looked at your list and thought "Did he even see that list? Most of those titles are either rated the same or just very slightly giving the nod to the west, Japan still has a lot of titles on that list!"

2. On your list it's 13 vs 13 for both. Although I think it's worth mentioning The Last of Us Remastered and Grand Theft Auto V are not original games.

3. Also, Shadow of the Colossus is a Japanese game, even if it was remade in the West.

1. Oh, I see how it may sound like that. No, it's definitely impressive that a single country manages to give us as many great games as the entire remaining world.

2. That's true. There are some ports from last gen. I think 6, right? GTAV, TLOU, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Diablo 3, and Rayman Legends.

3. Good point. Yet another game that exists thanks to Japan.

Hmmmm I'm one of those people that would include Wii U games in this generation. I mean, it was only a year early. Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8 and Rayman Legends all count I think. Rayman was a Wii U game that got ported onto PS4 and One and then ported to older consoles, I guess that one is a little weird. 

I'm not saying that just to make Japan's haul bigger, though. I just think 3DS, Wii U, and Switch might as well be considered 8th gen. It's weird splitting them up.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Replicant said:

1. Oh, I see how it may sound like that. No, it's definitely impressive that a single country manages to give us as many great games as the entire remaining world.

2. That's true. There are some ports from last gen. I think 6, right? GTAV, TLOU, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8, Diablo 3, and Rayman Legends.

3. Good point. Yet another game that exists thanks to Japan.

Hmmmm I'm one of those people that would include Wii U games in this generation. I mean, it was only a year early. Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart 8 and Rayman Legends all count I think. Rayman was a Wii U game that got ported onto PS4 and One and then ported to older consoles, I guess that one is a little weird.

I'm not saying that just to make Japan's haul bigger, though. I just think 3DS, Wii U, and Switch might as well be considered 8th gen. It's weird splitting them up.

I don't really care what gen 3DS, Wii U and Switch (or any other console for that matter) belong to so it's fine with me

Though I'm pretty sure I played Rayman Legends on PS3 before it was out on PS4/XB1 but that's not important either.