I'm not the one who is using their opinion to determine what is and is not music. There is a difference between opinion and fact. That was the whole purpose of me using the earth is flat etc. They were an analogy. I used these analogies as a means to say that your opinion does not change something by its definition. So if the earth is spherical, you cannot say that in your opinion it is not. Just like you cannot say that in your opinion, this is not music, because by definition it is music, just as the earth is spherical. I was not saying you literally believe these things, I was merely saying that your thought process was akin to these things. You were denying fact. That was all I was trying to convey.
I apologise if I did not convey this clearly. However, my point still stands.
It's not a nice thing to say and it doesn't further your point. It's an easy exit to an argument about what something is, fundamentally.
The definition of music is offered to us by what people over time have considered music. As you said music has changed radically over the years so that definition was refined until everything everyone today considers music can fit.
But I gave you a very good argument. If I sent you a recording of me singing like a goof, with a proper time signature and a common rock structure, you might have a hard time calling it music. You might laugh and call it comedy, or you might cringe and say it's so bad it's hard to call music.
I'm pushing it to the extreme to simply make a point.
Again, I don't think all screamo is not music and I never said that.
I appreciate your apology and I apologize if my point of view upset you. But let's talk about it without taking jabs at each other, it's all I'm asking. I also wanted to say that the feces argument was vulgar I admit, but I used it just to make a point.
Sure there are some things that stand out that are or can be considered music. But someone banging on a drum and another guy screaming words you cannot understand into a microphone is not music. Do we consider the Blue Man group music just because they also bang on drums, or do we consider what they do entertainment?
If kids or adults like this stuff then more power to them. This is not what this is about and i am not trying to diminish your enjoyment of the entertainment. But other than having a talent for being able to blast gutteral hell into a microphone, there is nothing else involved. Many times I have even seen people just take background music from free internet sites. So in actuality, the actual band or group has no real talent.
Lucky I did not call it what it really is. Noise.