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I hate them a bit :) 44 16.79%
 
I hate them a lot :D 36 13.74%
 
Nah, just a bunch of liars 66 25.19%
 
Project Liar 115 43.89%
 
Total:261
Goodnightmoon said:
ihatefatkatz said:

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

They really think that NX is coming this year, how can they be so out of reality?

Or maybe they are taken us all for fools.

Announcement != coming out. An announcement would give them time to optimise the current version as a 1080p60 launch game. Not so evil if you ask me.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Hynad said:
ihatefatkatz said:

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?


Could be anything. Could be they needed more time to make their engine work properly on the Wii U, so that the rest of the porting process goes smoothly. That didn't work out well because of the nature of the game. Hence why they're saying they'd rather port it to the NX than downgrade everything so it works on the Wii U. 

You know far too well how Nintendo fans will react if the version they get is downgraded too much. I don't think I need to dig examples to show you how that happened time and again over the last few years. 

So I don't think they are lying at all. I think the reasons they gave are legitimate, espectially considering the nature of the game they developed. Which kept getting more and more ambitious over the course of development. The game has some problems running properly on the PS4, for Pete's sake. It shouldn't be more clear than that. The Wii U is struggling to run the game in the form they've made it / making it run on the Wii U in respectable manner is a struggle. I don't see a reason to think this is a lie.

Perhaps you are right and I am wrong


They're uncommitment, the changes in their rhetoric and the lack of Wii U screenshots/footage since it's announcement has me questioning their claims.

So I will stand firm with my position.



SubiyaCryolite said:
Goodnightmoon said:
ihatefatkatz said:

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

They really think that NX is coming this year, how can they be so out of reality?

Or maybe they are taken us all for fools.

Announcement != coming out. An announcement would give them time to optimise the current version as a 1080p60 launch game. Not so evil if you ask me.

So they are expecting for a NX announcement (even when Nintendo said oficially that is not going to happen this year) to release the game 1.5/2 years later, Because that totally worked with the old ports of ps3/xbx360 on WiiU, right? 

Maybe they are just extremely dumb then.



AEGRO said:
Goodnightmoon said:

I´m sick of that argument. "oh if you want a third party game why you buy a wiiu"

They have been hyping the game 2 years, That´s what I wanted it, we were not hopig to have a version too, it was confirmed sice 2013, that´s why we were waiting for it. I can buy it on PC too but I want this game on my WiiU, if not, no game. I´m not going to support this shitty behaviours from developers, if they couldn´t make the game, the shouldn´t have said all the lies they have been telling us the past 2 years.


Why arent you sick of Reggies lies? He promised all of you back at 2012 that the Wii U would have the support of the industry. 3 years later look at the entire panorama, it is just unacceptable from a consumer point of view.

If Slighty Mad Studios manages to complete the game on the Wii U but have to downgrade it hard from what we have seen from the PC, Ps4 or X1, would you buy it? Would you buy the game running at 640p/30? With less cars on the road? Would you?

Do i have to remind you what happened with Watch Dogs? The situation was the same, every version was released but the Wii U. Then months later the game was released slighty downgraded from the 8th gen version, but still better than the 7th gen versions, what happened? The game FLOPPED so horribly that Ubisoft stopped releasing games for the Wii U. It was the last chance for you people and nobody stood up for the developer. Every single Ubisoft game have flopped on the Wii U, minus ZombiU for obvious reasons.

Lets be real here people, Project Cars would have flopped on the Wii U.

Back in 2012 whole industry was promising its support to WiiU. Where are ghost recon/metro/alien/etc (which were shown on e3 as future WiiU games?)

WatchDogs example is a freaking shame. Total saboteuring of wiiu sales and audience by Ubi, starting from Rayman Legends f... up (but at least Rayman was a good game!)



Goodnightmoon said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Goodnightmoon said:
ihatefatkatz said:

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

They really think that NX is coming this year, how can they be so out of reality?

Or maybe they are taken us all for fools.

Announcement != coming out. An announcement would give them time to optimise the current version as a 1080p60 launch game. Not so evil if you ask me.

So they are expecting for an NX announcement (even when Nintendo said oficially that is not going to happen this year) to release the game 1.5/2 years later, Because that totally worked with the old ports of ps3/xbx360 on WiiU, right? 

Maybe they are just extremely dumb then.

No NX announcement at E3, No mention of this year. See, studios would know before we do and it could happen behind the scenes. Christ.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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SubiyaCryolite said:

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

Context much. half way through getting the game to run at 30fps, not halfway porting the whole damn game.

Please read the OP! Here's the next sentence.


Our work might just be the best thing that ever hit that new console in the driving sim genre So we're playing a waiting game at the moment and yes, economics do come in to it."

He is refering to the game as a whole.



SubiyaCryolite said:
Goodnightmoon said:

So they are expecting for an NX announcement (even when Nintendo said oficially that is not going to happen this year) to release the game 1.5/2 years later, Because that totally worked with the old ports of ps3/xbx360 on WiiU, right? 

Maybe they are just extremely dumb then.

No NX announcement at E3, No mention of this year. See, studios would know before we do and it could happen behind the scenes. Christ.

They said several times that they are not going to speak about the console until 2016, Iwata confirmed a week ago that he only talked about it because he was afraid of the market thinking that Nintendo is gone mobile.

And even if something was happening behind the curtains (but they were talking about the e3, not anything behind the curtains), it would be a extremely dumb movement, because the console wouldn´t come out until December of the next year in the worst scenario, and most likely 2 years. How is that going to work? A 2 years old game that nobody would care about on 2017, who is going to buy that?? They didnt learn NOTHING about the WiiU old ports of games that are everywhere else but for 20$ instead of 60$ and with 0 hype because everybody has been playing the game for 2 years everywhere else?? Is that really a smart movement? Jesus.



ihatefatkatz said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

Context much. half way through getting the game to run at 30fps, not halfway porting the whole damn game.

Please read the OP! Here's the next sentence.


Our work might just be the best thing that ever hit that new console in the driving sim genre So we're playing a waiting game at the moment and yes, economics do come in to it."

He is refering to the game as a whole.


No, he means halfway through optimising the game for a solid 30fps, they might go and announce the next console making all the optimisation pointless when they'd be better putting that resource into moving it over to the Wii U's successor instead.

Just because it's in the same paragraph, doesn't mean it means the same thing. The context of "halfway" was clearly at optimising the game. The game itself is done, the code is on Wii U, it runs like ass. Optimisation is the next process. They're currently evaluating whether it's worth doing it as the potential early reveal of a new console would basically null all the effort they would have to put in.



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Hot damn, Ian dropping truth bombs like a mofo. He's doing the same thing that Plat/Bayo 2 dev did on twitter.



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MikeRox said:
ihatefatkatz said:

Please read the OP! Here's the next sentence.


Our work might just be the best thing that ever hit that new console in the driving sim genre So we're playing a waiting game at the moment and yes, economics do come in to it."

He is refering to the game as a whole.


No, he means halfway through optimising the game for a solid 30fps, they might go and announce the next console making all the optimisation pointless when they'd be better putting that resource into moving it over to the Wii U's successor instead.

Just because it's in the same paragraph, doesn't mean it means the same thing. The context of "halfway" was clearly at optimising the game. The game itself is done, the code is on Wii U, it runs like ass. Optimisation is the next process. They're currently evaluating whether it's worth doing it as the potential early reveal of a new console would basically null all the effort they would have to put in.

Isn't it a more simplistic way they're not even halfway in finishing the Wii U version? I'm pretty sure it is. 

Edit.

Anyway, I'm dropping the topic and moving on.