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I hate them a bit :) 44 16.79%
 
I hate them a lot :D 36 13.74%
 
Nah, just a bunch of liars 66 25.19%
 
Project Liar 115 43.89%
 
Total:261
Hynad said:
ihatefatkatz said:


Really? Can't you see the bullshit in their rhetoric? It went from "we just a little more time to finish the game" to "we are not even half way and are uncommitted." They lied the first instance and are just now opening up to the reality of the situation. Even now, instead of owning up and making a firm decision to continue or cancel, they continue to dangle the carrot. If they are brutally honest, just cancel the game and apalogize to those who backed the game, instead of being rude and unprofessional.

It went from "We think we need more time to get it working on the Wii U" to "We're having problems making it run properly on Wii U even after spending more time with it".

See, there's a positive way to spin it all as well. -__-

I can see why he would say the Nintendo crowd is difficult to deal with. It's always damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?



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Goodnightmoon said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

They werent lying, they finished up the game on the PS4 and XBox One and hit a brick wall on the Wii U. Which they then told you about, the opposite of lying.

goodnightmoon


Could you read the OP again and repeat me that I´m finding lies where there aren´t??

Because they are obvious as hell.

I´m sure they knew this a year ago. 

Again. They werent lying. They delayed the game to polish it up. They finished the game on the PS4 and XBox One and hit a brick wall on the Wii U. Despite all their efforts they cant get better performance and will have to cut content. Alternatively they can keep everythig intact and release a definitive version on next gen hardware. They've told you everything, plain and simple, in black and white. Doesn't sound like lying to me, quite the opposite in fact.

You are falling into their lies because you are not being affected by them.

OBVIOUSLY someday they had to tell the truth, because some day they have to release the game, so they do that a few months before the release.

There was people in there predicting this all the time, I was sure the game was gonna come (I failed), but some people were saying that they didn´t knew how to get rid of the game, they didn´t want it, but they didn´t wanted bad press, so they first release the game and then, little by little they start saying that there is problems, that maybe is not possible, that maybe is better for NX.... and then they drop the support and they are happy again.

That´s what happened at the end, I should have been more pessimistic.

Who is being affected? Wii U users? 

 

95% of Third Party games dont release on the Wii U, why are you focusing your attention on this studio? After more than two years on the market, it is more than clear that if you want to play 3rd party games, the Wii U is just not an option. You either buy a Ps4, X1 or PC.

 

The people that Crowd Funded this game took the risk, that is all.



ihatefatkatz said:
Hynad said:

It went from "We think we need more time to get it working on the Wii U" to "We're having problems making it run properly on Wii U even after spending more time with it".

See, there's a positive way to spin it all as well. -__-

I can see why he would say the Nintendo crowd is difficult to deal with. It's always damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?


Could be anything. Could be they needed more time to make their engine work properly on the Wii U, so that the rest of the porting process goes smoothly. That didn't work out well because of the nature of the game. Hence why they're saying they'd rather port it to the NX than downgrade everything so it works on the Wii U. 

You know far too well how Nintendo fans will react if the version they get is downgraded too much. I don't think I need to dig examples to show you how that happened time and again over the last few years. 

So I don't think they are lying at all. I think the reasons they gave are legitimate, especially considering the nature of the game they developed. Which kept getting more and more ambitious over the course of development. The game has some problems running properly on the PS4, for Pete's sake. It shouldn't be more clear than that. The Wii U is struggling to run the game in the form they've made it / making it run on the Wii U in respectable manner is a struggle. I don't see a reason to think this is a lie.



AEGRO said:
Goodnightmoon said:

You are falling into their lies because you are not being affected by them.

OBVIOUSLY someday they had to tell the truth, because some day they have to release the game, so they do that a few months before the release.

There was people in there predicting this all the time, I was sure the game was gonna come (I failed), but some people were saying that they didn´t knew how to get rid of the game, they didn´t want it, but they didn´t wanted bad press, so they first release the game and then, little by little they start saying that there is problems, that maybe is not possible, that maybe is better for NX.... and then they drop the support and they are happy again.

That´s what happened at the end, I should have been more pessimistic.

Who is being affected? Wii U users? 

 

95% of Third Party games dont release on the Wii U, why are you focusing your attention on this studio? After more than two years on the market, it is more than clear that if you want to play 3rd party games, the Wii U is just not an option. You either buy a Ps4, X1 or PC.

 

The people that Crowd Funded this game took the risk, that is all.

I´m sick of that argument. "oh if you want a third party game why you buy a wiiu"

They have been hyping the game 2 years, That´s what I wanted it, we were not hopig to have a version too, it was confirmed sice 2013, that´s why we were waiting for it. I can buy it on PC too but I want this game on my WiiU, if not, no game. I´m not going to support this shitty behaviours from developers, if they couldn´t make the game, the shouldn´t have said all the lies they have been telling us the past 2 years.



ihatefatkatz said:
Hynad said:

It went from "We think we need more time to get it working on the Wii U" to "We're having problems making it run properly on Wii U even after spending more time with it".

See, there's a positive way to spin it all as well. -__-

I can see why he would say the Nintendo crowd is difficult to deal with. It's always damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?

Why do you keep imlying that the game is halfway done? They've only mentioned problems with the framerate. Every other asset should already exist.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Maybe they should have released it when they originally planned on PS3, 360 and Wiiu



SubiyaCryolite said:
ihatefatkatz said:
Hynad said:

It went from "We think we need more time to get it working on the Wii U" to "We're having problems making it run properly on Wii U even after spending more time with it".

See, there's a positive way to spin it all as well. -__-

I can see why he would say the Nintendo crowd is difficult to deal with. It's always damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?

Why do you keep imlying that the game is halfway done? They've only mentioned problems with the framerate. Every other asset should already exist.

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."



ihatefatkatz said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
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Why do you keep imlying that the game is halfway done? They've only mentioned problems with the framerate. Every other asset should already exist.

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

They really think that NX is coming this year, how can they be so out of reality?

Or maybe they are taken us all for fools.



ihatefatkatz said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
ihatefatkatz said:
Hynad said:

It went from "We think we need more time to get it working on the Wii U" to "We're having problems making it run properly on Wii U even after spending more time with it".

See, there's a positive way to spin it all as well. -__-

I can see why he would say the Nintendo crowd is difficult to deal with. It's always damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Doesn't "we need a little more time" imply they have a substantial amount done. Now they've revealed they're not even half way done. See the difference?

Why do you keep imlying that the game is halfway done? They've only mentioned problems with the framerate. Every other asset should already exist.

"We could reach a fairly solid 30FPS but it might take a hell of a lot of work. On the other hand, about halfway through us finishing, Nintendo might announce a new console (I have zero knowledge on this BTW but I've heard 'rumours')."

Context much. half way through getting the game to run at 30fps, not halfway porting the whole damn game.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Goodnightmoon said:
AEGRO said:

Who is being affected? Wii U users? 

 

95% of Third Party games dont release on the Wii U, why are you focusing your attention on this studio? After more than two years on the market, it is more than clear that if you want to play 3rd party games, the Wii U is just not an option. You either buy a Ps4, X1 or PC.

 

The people that Crowd Funded this game took the risk, that is all.

I´m sick of that argument. "oh if you want a third party game why you buy a wiiu"

They have been hyping the game 2 years, That´s what I wanted it, we were not hopig to have a version too, it was confirmed sice 2013, that´s why we were waiting for it. I can buy it on PC too but I want this game on my WiiU, if not, no game. I´m not going to support this shitty behaviours from developers, if they couldn´t make the game, the shouldn´t have said all the lies they have been telling us the past 2 years.


Why arent you sick of Reggies lies? He promised all of you back at 2012 that the Wii U would have the support of the industry. 3 years later look at the entire panorama, it is just unacceptable from a consumer point of view.

 

If Slighty Mad Studios manages to complete the game on the Wii U but have to downgrade it hard from what we have seen from the PC, Ps4 or X1, would you buy it? Would you buy the game running at 640p/30? With less cars on the road? Would you?

 

Do i have to remind you what happened with Watch Dogs? The situation was the same, every version was released but the Wii U. Then months later the game was released slighty downgraded from the 8th gen version, but still better than the 7th gen versions, what happened? The game FLOPPED so horribly that Ubisoft stopped releasing games for the Wii U. It was the last chance for you people and nobody stood up for the developer. Every single Ubisoft game have flopped on the Wii U, minus ZombiU for obvious reasons.

 

Lets be real here people, Project Cars would have flopped on the Wii U.