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Cerebralbore101 said:

Also keep in mind that there are a lot of games out there with only 4 to 8 reviews, on PC and Xbox that I wouldn't personally count. So in reality Xbox suffers even more than this graph shows, and PC/PS4 are pretty much neck and neck.

Game versions with less than 7 reviews don't get a MetaScore. That hurts the Xbox numbers, since the more popular consoles (currently PS4 + Switch) get more reviews.

Some good rated PS4 and Switch games (with more than 6 reviews each) also are available for Xbox (with 6 or less reviews).

Therefore the situation for Xbox gamers is a bit better than shown by the numbers.

And with tie ratios of less than 20 games per console, "only" 300 XBO games with 80+ ratings shouldn't be a big problem. There are more than enough good games on all platforms for most system owners.

Last edited by Conina - on 10 January 2021

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Conina said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Also keep in mind that there are a lot of games out there with only 4 to 8 reviews, on PC and Xbox that I wouldn't personally count. So in reality Xbox suffers even more than this graph shows, and PC/PS4 are pretty much neck and neck.

Game versions with less than 7 reviews don't get a MetaScore. That hurts the Xbox numbers, since the more popular consoles (currently PS4 + Switch) get more reviews.

Some good rated PS4 and Switch games (with more than 6 reviews each) also are available for Xbox (with 6 or less reviews).

Therefore the situation for Xbox gamers is a bit better than shown by the numbers.

And with tie ratios of less than 20 games per console, "only" 300 XBO games with 80+ ratings shouldn't be a big problem. There are more than enough good games on all platforms for most system owners.

Ah I see. I assumed you had the common sense to add to Xbox any game that got good reviews on the PC, PS4, or Switch side. In that case Xbox isn't as bad off as this graph shows. What do you mean by tie ratio?

Also a few questions about your graph...

1. Do game expansions count as an individual game? For example if WoW gets a new expansion does that count as +1 game for PC? Or if Sword/Shield gets new DLC does that count as +1 game for Switch?

2. What's the ratio of 2D Indie games to fully fledged 3D games?

3. Do game compilations count as their own games? For example: Do all the games in Super Mario 3D All Stars count as one game for Switch or as three games? If a game gets released in both a compilation, and in a standalone release, do both the compilation and standalone release count as a game? Would Control and Control Ultimate Edition each count as +1 release for their respective platforms?


Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 10 January 2021

Seems like they use to give out 90+ meta like candy in the early 2000's, but have gotten stricter as time went on.



Cerebralbore101 said:

Ah I see. I assumed you had the common sense to add to Xbox any game that got good reviews on the PC, PS4, or Switch side. In that case Xbox isn't as bad off as this graph shows.

That would be sisyphus work to check every game on every system. I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't.

What do you mean by tie ratio?

Tie ratio is the number of games bought per console/system on average:

https://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tie-Ratio/Global/

The VGC tie ratio doesn't include digital sales, so it should be a bit higher. Nevertheless most gamers will only buy ~20 games for a system on average. So it doesn't matter THAT much if 300 or 500 good games are available for the system.

Also a few questions about your graph...

1. Do game expansions count as an individual game? For example if WoW gets a new expansion does that count as +1 game for PC? Or if Sword/Shield gets new DLC does that count as +1 game for Switch?

If the expansions are popular enough to get enough good reviews, they are counted. I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't. But since all platforms have a few games with good reviewed expansions, that should even out.



2. What's the ratio of 2D Indie games to fully fledged 3D games?

I don't care. A good game is a good game, no matter if it is a 2D indie game, a 2.5D indie game, a 3D indie game, a 2D AA game, a 2.5D AA game, a 3D AA game, a 2D AAA game, a 2.5D AAA game or a 3D AAA game. Also the transitions are fluid.



3. Do game compilations count as their own games? For example: Do all the games in Super Mario 3D All Stars count as one game for Switch or as three games? If a game gets released in both a compilation, and in a standalone release, do both the compilation and standalone release count as a game? Would Control and Control Ultimate Edition each count as +1 release for their respective platforms?

If the compilations are popular enough to get enough good reviews, they are counted (as one game, since the compilation gets the score, not the included games). I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't. But since all platforms have a few compilations and most compilations are released on all popular platforms (f. e. the Borderlands Handsome Collection), that should even out.



Conina said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Ah I see. I assumed you had the common sense to add to Xbox any game that got good reviews on the PC, PS4, or Switch side. In that case Xbox isn't as bad off as this graph shows.

That would be sisyphus work to check every game on every system. I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't.

What do you mean by tie ratio?

Tie ratio is the number of games bought per console/system on average:

https://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tie-Ratio/Global/

The VGC tie ratio doesn't include digital sales, so it should be a bit higher. Nevertheless most gamers will only buy ~20 games for a system on average. So it doesn't matter THAT much if 300 or 500 good games are available for the system.

Also a few questions about your graph...

1. Do game expansions count as an individual game? For example if WoW gets a new expansion does that count as +1 game for PC? Or if Sword/Shield gets new DLC does that count as +1 game for Switch?

If the expansions are popular enough to get enough good reviews, they are counted. I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't. But since all platforms have a few games with good reviewed expansions, that should even out.



2. What's the ratio of 2D Indie games to fully fledged 3D games?

I don't care. A good game is a good game, no matter if it is a 2D indie game, a 2.5D indie game, a 3D indie game, a 2D AA game, a 2.5D AA game, a 3D AA game, a 2D AAA game, a 2.5D AAA game or a 3D AAA game. Also the transitions are fluid.



3. Do game compilations count as their own games? For example: Do all the games in Super Mario 3D All Stars count as one game for Switch or as three games? If a game gets released in both a compilation, and in a standalone release, do both the compilation and standalone release count as a game? Would Control and Control Ultimate Edition each count as +1 release for their respective platforms?

If the compilations are popular enough to get enough good reviews, they are counted (as one game, since the compilation gets the score, not the included games). I only mirror the metascore data. Without judgment, which scores should count and which shouldn't. But since all platforms have a few compilations and most compilations are released on all popular platforms (f. e. the Borderlands Handsome Collection), that should even out.

Yeah, actually counting every game with reasonable exceptions, and additions would be a massive task.

I don't believe that there are 300 good games, released within the last 7 years on any platform let alone XB1. I own virtually every PS4 and Switch game that I consider worth owning (which is mostly games with 80+ metascore). Even if I were to combine my two PS4/Switch libraries together, and throw in some games that I have on PC for good measure, I wouldn't hit 300 games.

But I can't really blame you for not trying to judge the games, or filter the list through a sieve of reason. That's just way too much work.



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Cerebralbore101 said:

I don't believe that there are 300 good games, released within the last 7 years on any platform let alone XB1.

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/xboxone/filtered?page=0



Conina said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I don't believe that there are 300 good games, released within the last 7 years on any platform let alone XB1.

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/xboxone/filtered?page=0

That list just runs afoul of all the things I've been pointing out and then some. Expansions to games being counted as their own individual games. Games with less than 10 scored reviews being counted. Yearly Sports/Racing titles being counted. Freemium trash being counted. Games being counted twice, due to being both part of a compilation and a stand alone release.

You already admitted that your list was flawed when you said you didn't bother adding in Xbox games that had high scores on PS4/PC/Switch. Why not admit that counting things I listed above is also flawed?

We can either take the data as is, without any judgement, or we can take the data with reasonable exceptions/additions. As is, without any judgement XB1 is sorely lacking in games compared to PS4. Taking the data with reasonable exceptions/additions XB1 is also sorely lacking in games compared to PS4.

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 10 January 2021

I updated my MetaScore charts again (graphics best viewed in fullscreen)



shikamaru317 said:

Seems like they use to give out 90+ meta like candy in the early 2000's, but have gotten stricter as time went on.

I feel it's going the other way again. Games used to get lower scores when releasing unfinished and/or having server problems at release. The last few years it feels like stuff simply gets rated on potential. And then you had CP2077... It got adjusted later but at release the meta scores were a total joke. 86 for PC is still too high.

Flight Simulator 2020, 91 score, broken still / again. Unfinished, many problems, add-ons get broken every update.
Forza Horizon 5, 92 score, multiplayer is a mess, online stuff barely works.
Psychonauts 2, 89 score, yet the actual gameplay is very undercooked. (Does deserve it on creativity)
Halo Infinite, 87 score, released unfinished in pieces, many things still missing, netcode is a mess.



I updated my MetaScore charts again, now with correct colors. Home consoles + handheld consoles of the same manufacturer are now put together.

Some 2020 and 2021 numbers are higher than in January, since a few games now have overcome the threshold of 7 ratings.