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JWeinCom said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:

1: That's still a big planet to crack. And yes, most of the people of the planet can probably crack the planet. Have you never heard of toonforce?

2: Kirby travels across the galaxy in Super Star Ultra.

3: Buu wouldbe much weaker if they just use the manga.

4: He can store 5 items in his stomach in the game. In the animation of the fight, he used 3 copy abilities and the Hypernova. That's 4 items.

5: When he was turned to yarn he was supposed to be killed. And he can survive a planet explosion. I doubt that Buu's normal attacks are more powerful than a planet explosion. And he has the power to kill Buu by simply using the Hypernova, whicih he can store in his stomach.

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1.  Like I said, if you want to take that seriously, you also have to take things like the 30 mph speed of the Warp Star seriously.  Kirby never displays that kind of strength outside of that one minigame, so we should assume he's not actually that strong.  If everyone on popstar had planet crushing power, the games would be much different.  No cherry picking.

2.  In that game, Kirby also struggles to keep up with King Dedede on foot (which makes it hard to believe he could keep up with Buu), and the warp star takes quite a while to catch up to Metaknight's war ship which certainly does not go at the speed of light.  No cherry picking.

He does travel accross the Galaxy, but we have no idea what the size of his Galaxy is, or how long it takes him to travel between planets.  The planets he travels too are all pretty close to eachother.  Also, none of them have a sun, or any discernable orbit, so I don't know how seriously we want to take this representation.

In the anime, Gotenks can fly around the Earth 9 times in about 5 seconds.  So it takes him roughtly half a second to travel around the Earth, between 1/3 and 1/4 the speed of light.  Buu is faster than that.  Kirby is not dodging him on foot.  Buu also copied instant transmission from Goku. 

3.  Still far stronger.  At any rate, nothing in the anime (that I'm aware of) directly contradicts the manga regarding Buu.  And, they didn't even use Buu's strongest form anyway.  

4. Games  where Kirby can hold 5 powers-  Squeak Squad.  Games where Kirby can only use current ability-  Kirby's adventure, Kirby's Dreamland 2, Kirby's Dream Land 3, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, Kirby's Dream Course, Kirby's Canvas Curse, Kirby Superstar, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Kirby 64.  So, picking the one game where Kirby can hold five powers would be the definition of cherry picking.

And there is no indication whatsoever that he could store hypernove.  In Triple Deluxe, Hyper Nova does not follow the same normal copy rules.  It doesn't get hit away from Kirby, he can't take it between levels, etc.  

5.  Why was he supposed to die?  Where exactly are you pulling this stuff out of?  All of Dreamland was turned into Yarn, and nobody died.  Kirby has never shown the ability to hold Hypernova for more than a level.  And with Hyper Nova, it takes Kirby about 5 seconds to suck up a tree about 5 times his height (40 inches) that is not resisting.  He can't suck up bosses until they're rendered unconscious, so he can't suck up Buu.  

While we're at it, Kirby cannot survive an exploding planet.  What he survived was the vines exploding on popstar.  ( 9:00).  It sort of looks like an explosion, but it seemingly leaves no damage to popstar.  It actually leaves pop star better off than it was before the "explosion".  So it's like... the opposite of an explosion.

So, there is no evidence Kirby has the durability to survive Majin Buu's attacks, or the strength to hurt Majin Buu.  The only way we've seen Majin Buu hurt beyond his recovery abilities was by Goku's spirit bomb.  This is an attack that it made of a unique kind of energy, and is of a strength that Buu cannot create.  If Buu can't create it, Kirby can't use it against him.  Meanwhile, Kirby can be hurt by things like getting bonked with a hammer, walking into spikes, or bumping into a Waddle Dee.  Pretty open shut case.

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Anyone who has beat Xenoblade knows that Shulk could obliterate anyone who he pleases.

This thread was really badly dome by the OP, not putting im any specifics. anyway let's be real here most of yall are saying smash or all star because you like the game. If we see this from a neutral viewpoint this is certainly complicated.

On smash we got kirby, Ike, link, Ganon and pit. These are the main hitters of smash.

On all stars we got Zeus, Kratos, Dante, Raiden and cole.

the problem is that some of these character are immortal or need some stupid reason to die (ganom master sword blah blah blah)

It will all come down to Dante basically since that guy can only be killed by Demoms, and unless you count dark pit there are no demons on smash.

So after a long bloodshed and dante trying to figure out how to kill immortals from Kratos he'll probably win.

Also to all those people saying "kirby did this on this game" or "link did this on this" i will consider it irrelevant since yes he did do that great feat but not on the smash/all star universe.

Also the Gods that kratos killed are weak as possible.

Depends. If we're comparing them based on their respective series' then I'd say Playstation Allstars because of Dante (though it would be a very long and fun to watch fight). If we're comparing them based on how they perform in the fighting games however, Smash Bros by a long shot. If you put Sheik or Zero Suit Samus in Playstation Allstars, they would break the game and be heavily unbalanced.



I take back my first statement about the respective series'. I forgot Shulk is in Smash Bros and if we're comparing them based on their respective series', he's way beyond OP. We're talking universe, time and existance altering kind of OP.

Giventhat this thread became pointless long ago, I'll just say this: Sackboy can exist on a separate plane, different than our 4 dimensions. He can pause the world, he is immortal, he can erease matter, he can wish everything into it's existense. And he can also create and infinite spawn for himself.

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I can't believe this thread is still going. Was it revived by the addition of Ryu?

PRrussiaGC said:
It will all come down to Dante basically since that guy can only be killed by Demoms, and unless you count dark pit there are no demons on smash.