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oniyide said:
padib said:
oniyide said:

haahahaha. the despertation is almost funny. See i didnt even know any of this and i consider myself a fan. So i know most end users have no idea, or dont care. At this point the game will sell on the name alone. Much like all big franchises, hell even the Vita one managed a million and that was handled by a team who never even made an action game i believe. let alone an AC one

He was wrong -_-

Whether the end users care or not, the numbers stand.

he was wrong about what? the end users not caring? no he's right about that. Most people dont even know who made what. Numbers dont make this untrue, they dont prove anything.

I guess what he's trying to say is that Ubisoft Montreal is better at making games. Therefore, even if people don't know it's them behind the game, the quality they put into it will drive the sales.

Regarding his claim that Ubisoft Montreal should do an exclusive for WiiU, I totally disagree. I don't remember them making an exclusive for any PlayStation (which have gave them many more sales). They would be crazy to do one for WiiU.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

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Here is a thought. Stop being assholes and release the game. These companies are unreal. No wonder people dont buy third party games. Look how they treat nintendo fans.



isn't it Nintendo's job to bring in the install base?



padib said:

But for the first part, saying "Only Nintendo games sell well on Nintendo consoles" is really a bad excuse for a lousy job.

I'm not attacking them, I'm just saying really it's up to them to make their own games sell. If Nintendo can do it, so can they.

None of what you said explains the opposite, they they just can't sell on Nintendo consoles no matter what they try. If Nintendo can push units, then they are doing something Ubi isn't.

That's as simple as my point is really.

They are...making the consoles. It's easier for you to win on your own game. That's as simple as my point is.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

GianCarmen said:
Here is a thought. Stop being assholes and release the game. These companies are unreal. No wonder people dont buy third party games. Look how they treat nintendo fans.

Why release the game now when the install base is only 6.3M, when they could release it in a years time when it is around 8M?

They are a business. Their job is to make money.



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No commercials are NEVER shown for PS. MS has EXCLUSIVE ads with the COD series. But it STILL doesnt stop the PS versions from doing well. You keep ignoring this vital point. All of you keep dodging this point...i wonder why. 

Ok so they dont announce it till late. But lets use some sense. COD games have been coming to Ninty platforms for YEARS. If you are a COD player on Ninty systems you KNOW its coming. And this is 2014 you think someone cant easily find out if a game is coming or not, yes even a child can do it. No excuses. and the WIi U version was cheaper.How would they know? internet, like most other things. The average consumer no damn near all consumers use internet. Let me put it to you this way if you are a WIi U only owner. What difference does it make when its annoucned or if there are commercials? You're a WIi U only owner and a COD player so you would def be checking for it too come out. Otherwise you didnt have that much of an interest in the first place. And if you have more than a WIi U you most likely wont be buying it for WIi u in the first place so no lose there.

You're missing the point the average consumer does not go on the Internet to see if call of duty will be released or not that is what advertising does advise people when your product is coming out ...do you think the average consumer goes on the Internet to see when a game is coming out no that is why you advertise to make people aware smh and to you point it sells on playstation because it is a popular franchise and all CoD games have not been released on nintendo consoles so it not "common sense"  to "know" its coming or gonna be released smh ...do you know if call of duty is gonna be on wii u this year ? No u don't because nobody does lol so not knowing if it's gonna be on wii u or not isn't gonna affect sales when it'already known to be released on. Xbox one and playstation 4 

its a popular franchise. exactly. why would it be any different for Nintendo? YOu didnt even answer my question. Why does the PS version which gets NO advertisment, which you swear is so important still sell very well. It was already leaked that it would be released on Wii U. Where have you been? all i had to do was look. See here where it doesnt make sense, you say the avearge consumer needs advertisment but the Sony versions get none but still do pretty well. How do you explain that? Come on, be real. ONE COD game has not been released on a Nintendo platform that was in 08. So there have been COD games been releasing on Nintendo systems for the past SIX years. Come. On. Way more CODs have released on Ninty systems that havent. THats a tired excuse.

I explained why because it's a popular franchise and popular franchise and any popular franchise can sell well if announced as being released on playstation and xbox .....if advertising didn't matter why has it sold the most on xbox because it is advertised more and the reason why it sold well on playstation because it's a popular game and people bought it on playstation also ....because they knew it was announced as coming to the playstation. 3 also.....and just because it was leaked does not mean it will be coming to wii u until activation confirms ...so just because you read an Internet leak the same leak I read doesn't mean it will be released on wii u .......Example the wii u hasn't done as well as it could mainly because of no advertisement and no games ..they advertised mario kart. 8 more than any game so far on the wii u and what happens the game has sold well andis moving hardware ...advertising plays a huge role in the success of games whether you realize it or not 



Zod95 said:

I guess what he's trying to say is that Ubisoft Montreal is better at making games. Therefore, even if people don't know it's them behind the game, the quality they put into it will drive the sales.

Regarding his claim that Ubisoft Montreal should do an exclusive for WiiU, I totally disagree. I don't remember them making an exclusive for any PlayStation (which have gave them many more sales). They would be crazy to do one for WiiU.

Thanks for understanding. That is what I mean. About them making an exclusive, I never said that's what they should do. I only said that if it did happen I would shut my mouth immediately.

Zod95 said:
padib said:

But for the first part, saying "Only Nintendo games sell well on Nintendo consoles" is really a bad excuse for a lousy job.

I'm not attacking them, I'm just saying really it's up to them to make their own games sell. If Nintendo can do it, so can they.

None of what you said explains the opposite, they they just can't sell on Nintendo consoles no matter what they try. If Nintendo can push units, then they are doing something Ubi isn't.

That's as simple as my point is really.

They are...making the consoles. It's easier for you to win on your own game. That's as simple as my point is.

I understand. Nintendo built their market on their console much like 3rd parties have built their mutual market on Sony and MS' consoles. It's nobody's fault, but the onus is on Ubi to start building their market to make it their and Nintendo's game. The sooner they start, the sooner they succeed on a Nintendo console (if they want to of course).



DarkRPGamer007 said:
If they ditched the GamePad it would go down to $250 easily. With Microsoft getting rid of the Kinect to lower the XB1, Nintendo should kill the GamePad before it grows even more. It's a handy device but I would've liked to see some more horsepower on the Wii U before a map.

It would require some work on Nitnendo's end. They have to patch out a lot of games that require it to even start. Pikmin 3 won't begin unless the gamepad is on. Mario Karts map would have to be patched into the main game screen etc. Majority of the main menu options would have to also be moved to the TV. What about 3rd parties? Will they comply and make a patch to remove it. If it requires the game to start. Kinect at least wasn't integral to main games. Nor the system UI controls.



Zod95 said:

I guess what he's trying to say is that Ubisoft Montreal is better at making games. Therefore, even if people don't know it's them behind the game, the quality they put into it will drive the sales.

Well, Rayman Origins and Rayman Legends have much better reviews than Watch Dogs or most AC-games... didn't really help them.

Perhaps the development budget and PR-budget is more important than the actual quality of these games. ;)



padib said:
 

 

 

I understand. Nintendo built their market on their console much like 3rd parties have built their mutual market on Sony and MS' consoles. It's nobody's fault, but the onus is on Ubi to start building their market to make it their and Nintendo's game. The sooner they start, the sooner they succeed on a Nintendo console (if they want to of course).

Why is the onus on Ubisoft? So im guessing you were not around for any of the Wii days?  Ubisoft obtain massive success with the Wii (intresting enough, so did Nintendo) by catering software in tune with that of Nintendo, family friendly and pick up and play for any age (i feel like I keep repeating this theme), it was Nintendo that changed philosophy on third parties with the Wii U not other way around.  Many third parties were happy providing games for the Wii that was geared for that particular userbase and had no desire to have another me too system they already have success with the PS4 and Xbox one.