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superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.


Yea the whole arguement is really dumb.  People use hardcore to replace Niche (Pikmin,Dark Souls,Catherine) and call things casual that are really just wide appeal (COD, Mario Kart).   Casual to me is things like Wii Sports,Kinect Sports,Wii Fit, Just Dance...basically just games that non-gamers are willing to pick up and play.   Good Luck finding some non-gamers to play COD with you.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 December 2013
fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.

So says the supposed member of the gaming "Master Race". Hypocrite much?

It's used to piss off others but PC gamers don't actually act like that. Unlike some of the actual elitists some like I have transcended to a much greater vision of what's truly important in gaming. Your so close minded that you refuse to see the fact that the WII succeeded by it's own merits but instead you give worthless excuses that have no bearing. 

My sig is used to put down every other console fanboys in their own place and enlighten them further. 


I have come to the conclusion that you believe anyone who doesn't agree with you has a worthless opinion. Anyway, sweet dreams. Enjoy the rest of thread.



fatslob-:O on 15 December 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.

So says the supposed member of the gaming "Master Race". Hypocrite much?

It's used to piss off others but PC gamers don't actually act like that. Unlike some of the actual elitists some like I have transcended to a much greater vision of what's truly important in gaming. Your so close minded that you refuse to see the fact that the WII succeeded by it's own merits but instead you give worthless excuses that have no bearing. 

My sig is used to put down every other console fanboys in their own place and enlighten them further. 


I have come to the conclusion that you believe anyone who doesn't agree with you has a worthless opinion. Anyway, sweet dreams. Enjoy the rest of thread.

Hypocrite much ?! I couldn't care less about anyones opinion and I don't deem anyone's opinion to be worthless. What I do deem worthless is your flawed analysis so far. 



fatslob-:O on 15 December 2013
superhippy420 said:
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.


Yea the whole arguement is really dumb.  People use hardcore to replace Niche (Pikmin,Dark Souls,Catherine) and call things casual that are really just wide appeal (COD, Mario Kart).   Casual to me is things like Wii Sports,Kinect Sports,Wii Fit, Just Dance...basically just games that non-gamers are willing to pick up and play.   Good Luck finding some non-gamers to play COD with you.

It's thanks to COD that those non-gamers also came to the PS360.

Your underestimating CODs ability to create growth in gaming because COD ACTUALLY SELLS HARDWARE. 



FrancisNobleman on 15 December 2013

never heard before about edge for wii u



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superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
fatslob-:O said:
superhippy420 said:
I think you guys are really overthinking this whole thing, because to me its pretty straight forward. Nintendo launched with NSMBU,ZombiU, and Nintendoland and had the 2nd best launch ever, at the time. What followed was 8 months of zilch,nada,NOTHING to sell the console to anyone that was'nt convinced at launch. Pikmin 3 gave a little boost, W101 did nothing, Wind Waker gave a little boost, and the price drop did very little. The Mario/Luigi Bundles along with SM3DW though have given it a huge boost. They have been top sellers on Gamestop,Target,Amazon, and Best Buy and have brought the sales back to a respectable level. Wii Fit U should draw some casuals. DK has a much bigger base then people give it credit for (1st one sold 6 m.) and then Mario Kart will come out which is Nintendos biggest franchise. This console is not the Gamecube guys, the Gamecube released Smash/Mario/Pikmin/Luigis Mansion/Metroid/Zelda and Starfox in the 1st year and no one cared. Wii U puts out one bundle and one Mario game and it is already selling much better.

Xbone and PS4 are a little harder to analyze because we are in the launch period but heres my best guess. Xbone sales are going to take a huge dive next year. They are already retail on ebay (demand is not that high), zero exclusive games are coming out (Titanfall on 360 is foolish), and $500 is a tough sell. PS4 will have no big exclusives as well (sorry but Infamous 2 was a flop, no one really cares) but overflow demand and a lower price should keep their sales at decent levels. I am a big believer in supply and demand and when the Wii U Mario/Luigi bundles are marked up for more than Xbox Ones, thats a really bad sign for the near future, while PS4 is still really expensive.

As for who is winning this gen.....The bottom line is that someone in the next year is going to drop "the killer app", and when they do, that's the console the masses will flock towards. It could be an open world Zelda, it could be a new Miyamoto IP, it could be Halo 5, it could be some new Naughty Dog game, who knows, but what has been proven over time is that the company with the best games to offer always wins. NES,SNES,PS1,PS2,Wii. All had their X-factors (DVD Player,Motion Controls,etc.) along with great games.

I would count nintendo out because at this point they want to put out more gamecube esque games instead of what the market is asking for. 


I would count Pikmin 3, W101, and Wind Waker (obviously) as Gamecube-esque but SM3DW,DKC, and the new Mario Kart look far from it.   Smash Bros sold 7 million on the Gamecube, so thats a franchise that should be gamecube-esque.  "X" too me looks PS2-esque, which is why everyone is dying to play it.  Otherwise we just have to wait and see what Nintendo has in the pipeline.  The PS3 was a massive fail too, until God of War 3, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, and a few others came out.  Its all about the games man, always has, always will.



drake4 on 15 December 2013
fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.

So says the supposed member of the gaming "Master Race". Hypocrite much?

It's used to piss off others but PC gamers don't actually act like that. Unlike some of the actual elitists some like I have transcended to a much greater vision of what's truly important in gaming. Your so close minded that you refuse to see the fact that the WII succeeded by it's own merits but instead you give worthless excuses that have no bearing. 

My sig is used to put down every other console fanboys in their own place and enlighten them further. 


I have come to the conclusion that you believe anyone who doesn't agree with you has a worthless opinion. Anyway, sweet dreams. Enjoy the rest of thread.

Hypocrite much ?! I couldn't care less about anyones opinion and I don't deem anyone's opinion to be worthless. What I do deem worthless is your flawed analysis so far. 

funny i feel the same about your analysis.



fatslob-:O on 15 December 2013
superhippy420 said:
fatslob-:O said:
superhippy420 said:
I think you guys are really overthinking this whole thing, because to me its pretty straight forward. Nintendo launched with NSMBU,ZombiU, and Nintendoland and had the 2nd best launch ever, at the time. What followed was 8 months of zilch,nada,NOTHING to sell the console to anyone that was'nt convinced at launch. Pikmin 3 gave a little boost, W101 did nothing, Wind Waker gave a little boost, and the price drop did very little. The Mario/Luigi Bundles along with SM3DW though have given it a huge boost. They have been top sellers on Gamestop,Target,Amazon, and Best Buy and have brought the sales back to a respectable level. Wii Fit U should draw some casuals. DK has a much bigger base then people give it credit for (1st one sold 6 m.) and then Mario Kart will come out which is Nintendos biggest franchise. This console is not the Gamecube guys, the Gamecube released Smash/Mario/Pikmin/Luigis Mansion/Metroid/Zelda and Starfox in the 1st year and no one cared. Wii U puts out one bundle and one Mario game and it is already selling much better.

Xbone and PS4 are a little harder to analyze because we are in the launch period but heres my best guess. Xbone sales are going to take a huge dive next year. They are already retail on ebay (demand is not that high), zero exclusive games are coming out (Titanfall on 360 is foolish), and $500 is a tough sell. PS4 will have no big exclusives as well (sorry but Infamous 2 was a flop, no one really cares) but overflow demand and a lower price should keep their sales at decent levels. I am a big believer in supply and demand and when the Wii U Mario/Luigi bundles are marked up for more than Xbox Ones, thats a really bad sign for the near future, while PS4 is still really expensive.

As for who is winning this gen.....The bottom line is that someone in the next year is going to drop "the killer app", and when they do, that's the console the masses will flock towards. It could be an open world Zelda, it could be a new Miyamoto IP, it could be Halo 5, it could be some new Naughty Dog game, who knows, but what has been proven over time is that the company with the best games to offer always wins. NES,SNES,PS1,PS2,Wii. All had their X-factors (DVD Player,Motion Controls,etc.) along with great games.

I would count nintendo out because at this point they want to put out more gamecube esque games instead of what the market is asking for. 


I would count Pikmin 3, W101, and Wind Waker (obviously) as Gamecube-esque but SM3DW,DKC, and the new Mario Kart look far from it.   Smash Bros sold 7 million on the Gamecube, so thats a franchise that should be gamecube-esque.  "X" too me looks PS2-esque, which is why everyone is dying to play it.  Otherwise we just have to wait and see what Nintendo has in the pipeline.  The PS3 was a massive fail too, until God of War 3, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, and a few others came out.  Its all about the games man, always has, always will.

I'm pretty sure SM3DW falls under gamecube esque because it clearly flopped harder than sunshine. I'm not too sure about DKCTF because will it did really well for the WII and I know that retrostudios is putting some hardwork into it in order to subsitute for an actual 2D mario game unlike NSMBU. I'm pretty sure X isn't going to do great on the charts because their last game didn't fair too well with under 1 million so I would put it under gamecube esque also. 

The PS3 was nothing but incompetence on sony's part but thankfully they fixed it. 



superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
fatslob-:O said:
superhippy420 said:
fatslob-:O said:
aikohualda said:
fatslob-:O said:
Metacritic scores means nothing if your games keep flopping on a commercial basis.

then wii games is the best then in your definition huh.... and call of duty :)

I will admit that I did love the shit out of the WII because of the extremely fun games and that especially goes with mario kart wii and wii sports. I won't deny the fact that I like call of duty too which is pretty decent.

I'm one of the few people who will not categorize dumb shit like "casual" or "hardcore" but a gamer is a gamer.


Yea the whole arguement is really dumb.  People use hardcore to replace Niche (Pikmin,Dark Souls,Catherine) and call things casual that are really just wide appeal (COD, Mario Kart).   Casual to me is things like Wii Sports,Kinect Sports,Wii Fit, Just Dance...basically just games that non-gamers are willing to pick up and play.   Good Luck finding some non-gamers to play COD with you.

It's thanks to COD that those non-gamers also came to the PS360.

Your underestimating CODs ability to create growth in gaming because COD ACTUALLY SELLS HARDWARE. 


No doubt COD sells hardware right now, just look at the PS4/Xbone software sales.  I am just saying that to me casual is something that anyone that is a non-gamer can pick up and play right away.   Wii Sports - swing the controller like a tennis racket, bowl a ball.   Just Dance - Do the moves we tell you to do.  My first COD was the first one on the PC and at the time it was only a small to mid tier title.  MW2 brought in soooooo many people that did not play COD before, and to me thats when it really took off.  Now alot of people are tired of it, but if you only started 2 - 3 years ago, I can see why you are not yet.  Sales are creeping down by about 3 million release since MW3.



fatslob-:O on 15 December 2013
drake4 said:
fatslob-:O said:

Hypocrite much ?! I couldn't care less about anyones opinion and I don't deem anyone's opinion to be worthless. What I do deem worthless is your flawed analysis so far. 

funny i feel the same about your analysis.

It sounds like you don't actually want nintendo to succeed.