Lawlight said:
You're wrong - those aren't just the gaming division numbers. |
You are wrong, yes it is.
Wanderlei up to a good start, being a few days old on the forums and already calling people fanboys and delusional. This happens way too often, there's no sense in joining a forum just to be rude (and don't debate very well to boot).
Edit; I thought 8.4 billion wasn't the same as 4.7? Maybe I'm just confused.
| Mummelmann said: Wanderlei up to a good start, being a few days old on the forums and already calling people fanboys and delusional. This happens way too often, there's no sense in joining a forum just to be rude (and don't debate very well to boot). Edit; I thought 8.4 billion wasn't the same as 4.7? Maybe I'm just confused. |
Wad doesn't realize that there's more inside the division than just playstation. He saw the first couple numbers and they matched! How is it his fault that he didn't put in an ounce of effort to check his sources?
Hey and look, his profile is blocked. That must mean he's an xbox fan. I'm curious to see what he's banned for.
Poor Vita. It doesn't really deserve this. I mean, SCEA deserve it for their absolutely abysmal handling of the device, but I wish it'd do a little better than this just because it's an awesome machine.
But then again, I do kind of understand it. A Sony handheld is never going to sell as much as a Nintendo handheld. If 3DS + 2DS for $99 + recently released Pokemon + Zelda does 770k, even if SCEA threw every franchise they had at it at once I doubt they'd get even half those numbers. So probably isn't worth the investment.
Tearaway is the biggest tragedy though. A beautiful, creative masterpiece going completely ignored. Oh well.
And to bring even more doom into my post: I'm glad those Wii-U numbers aren't as bad as Patcher was predicting, but they're ~ 16k better than Vita's first NPD, and look where that is now. While I'm sure Wii-U won't reach these lows next year, if not only because of Smash Bros., it's becoming increasingly apparent that the machine is going to be irrelevant without something drastic - and I'm not sure it can even be saved by something miraculous now.
ethomaz said:
Well Sony just provided these two points... + PS4 is the top selling console in November MS added... + 360 is the top selling old-gen console Cremsugar added... + PS3 12% of all consoles (Wii + Wii U + Xbone + PS4 + 360 + PS3) Summing everything you can't have PS4 lower than 1140k or righter than 1190k... I think 1150k is a good bet. |
I don't doubt your math, my frustration lies in the need for the math in the first place. I'm wondering why either Sony or Gafsugar just won't say, here ya go people, PS4-1,115,00. Again, I believe you are correct I just don't get why the people that have the numbers in front of them won't staight up say so.
I LOVE paying for Xbox Live! I also love that my love for it pisses off so many people.
theprof00 said:
You talk as if you know almost nothing about stocks. 1. Sony had a split at it's 180$ price in 2000, going to 90 dollars. The jump to 180$ was already way higher than it should have been. From 40$ to 180$ in less than one year, which resulted from insanely inflated stock prices and news of playstation 2's incredible success. The drop was further exacerbated by global financial slowdown. If you don't trade stocks you really shouldn't comment on what you don't know. I see stocks go from 10$ to a hundred in a day and drop back to 40 within a couple weeks. It is normal in the stock market for prices to become outrageous because people called pumpers push lots of money into the stock, then they short the stock, and sell, causing a rippling effect among buyers. You buy 1,000,000 shares in increments of 10,000 every 20 minutes, this causes lots of people to see price going up, so they buy, hoping to ride the wave. By the end, your million shares got 2,000,000 people to also buy shares. Then you short the stock, which means you borrow against the price, sell your stocks quickly, then suddenly those 2,000,000 people are negative, and more and more are selling sending the price down. Before you know it, the price is through the floor, and you borrowed at the top, which means you not only made 1,000,000 shares worth of increasing stock price, but you also shorted a million off the top. This is normal wall street pumping. 2. Samsung and LG are both Korean. Huh, I wonder if that's a coincidence. (I already looked this up a year ago, so forgive me if I don't spoon-feed you the info). The Korean won has never seen a degredation of currency value against the global recession. What that means, is that Korean companies make an extremely good margin on their products, which, gee, I guess allows them to sell at a much cheaper price. Funny how that works. Throw the major recession into the mix, where people are buying as cheap as possible, and guess what. Korean companies currently are one of the most predominant consumer goods manufacturers. And it's simple to see why, if you'd bother to have checked. 3. Apple destroyed everyone with iShit, and currently losing stock price and market share by the yard. 4.(lost over 8B$ on ps3). Source? 7. Sony will make another handheld, you can bet your ass on that, because it's not as clear as the extremely biased picture you present. Say fanboy again, and you're reported. EDIT: Oh, and I'll save you some time on those sources I asked for. They don't exist. |
Don't argue with him. I shut him down in another thread and the most he could do was get angry and call me an idiot. Don't waste your time
| Wanderlei said:
Whoa calm done, dont go full fanboy. PlayStation division has lost over $8 billion since PS3 launched in November 2006.
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These figures don't seem to match the reports located on the site.
| Kresnik said: Poor Vita. It doesn't really deserve this. I mean, SCEA deserve it for their absolutely abysmal handling of the device, but I wish it'd do a little better than this just because it's an awesome machine. But then again, I do kind of understand it. A Sony handheld is never going to sell as much as a Nintendo handheld. If 3DS + 2DS for $99 + recently released Pokemon + Zelda does 770k, even if SCEA threw every franchise they had at it at once I doubt they'd get even half those numbers. So probably isn't worth the investment. Tearaway is the biggest tragedy though. A beautiful, creative masterpiece going completely ignored. Oh well. And to bring even more doom into my post: I'm glad those Wii-U numbers aren't as bad as Patcher was predicting, but they're ~ 16k better than Vita's first NPD, and look where that is now. While I'm sure Wii-U won't reach these lows next year, if not only because of Smash Bros., it's becoming increasingly apparent that the machine is going to be irrelevant without something drastic - and I'm not sure it can even be saved by something miraculous now. |
Guess I'll have to buy Tearaway now. Crap. And I haven't even cracked Dragon's Crown open yet. Still trying to finish platinum on hot shots golf. :D
| Mummelmann said: Wanderlei up to a good start, being a few days old on the forums and already calling people fanboys and delusional. This happens way too often, there's no sense in joining a forum just to be rude (and don't debate very well to boot). Edit; I thought 8.4 billion wasn't the same as 4.7? Maybe I'm just confused. |
He was a waste of bandwidth so I reported him. Twice.
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