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Intel Launches 13th Gen CPUs: Starting At $294, 5.8GHz, 15% IPC Increase And 41% Multi-Threaded Performance Increase Over Alder Lake

https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-13th-gen-cpus-starting-at-294-5-8ghz-15-ipc-increase-and-41-multi-threaded-performance-increase-over-alder-lake/

Official now. Insane prices and performance and cheaper than what newegg leak showed!



                  

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So now its...

13600k 14 Cores (6P 12 threads + 8E 8 threads) $319 vs $300 7600X 6 Cores 12 threads
13700k 16 Cores (8P 16 threads + 8E 8 threads) $409 vs $400 7800X 8 Cores 16 threads
13900k 24 Cores (8P 16 threads + 16E 16 threads) $589 vs $550 7900x 12 Cores 24 threads

And even cheaper if you don't want the iGPU. Hot damn Intel!



                  

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KS model...



                  

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hinch said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Intel 13th Gen Core Raptor Lake CPU pricing leaked by Newegg, i9-13900K for $660, i7-13700K $450, i5-13600K at $330

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-13th-gen-core-raptor-lake-cpu-pricing-leaked-by-newegg-i9-13900k-for-660-i7-13700k-450-i5-13600k-at-330

So let me get this straight...

13600k 14 Cores (6P 12 threads + 8E 8 threads) $330 vs $300 7600X 6 Cores 12 threads
13700k 16 Cores (8P 16 threads + 8E 8 threads) $450 vs $400 7800X 8 Cores 16 threads
13900k 24 Cores (8P 16 threads + 16E 16 threads) $660 vs $700 7950x 16 Cores 32 threads

Yea Intel just killed anything below a 7900X... Especially when you consider Z690 with PCI-E Gen 5 for GPU are on continuous sales.

Assuming these kick for productivity and gaming against Zen 4 on top of supporting DDR4.. Yeah. Interested to see how Intel will price the 13400 as well, which should be the insane value for money (like the i5 12400) for gamers on a budget.

But yeah Intel should take it easily this year, value wise. Crazy how AMD went from being the budget brand to being premium brand in the space of a few generations.

Don't forget that anything below the 13600K will use Alder Lake architecture, not Rocket Lake.

There may be performance improvements, but they could all come from higher clocks.

Captain_Yuri said:

Intel Launches 13th Gen CPUs: Starting At $294, 5.8GHz, 15% IPC Increase And 41% Multi-Threaded Performance Increase Over Alder Lake

https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-13th-gen-cpus-starting-at-294-5-8ghz-15-ipc-increase-and-41-multi-threaded-performance-increase-over-alder-lake/

Official now. Insane prices and performance and cheaper than what newegg leak showed!

Looks like this time we may have a price war! Betwen chips shortages, crypto shenanigans, etc. it's been a while since we've had similar performing products competing for our money.

By the way, talking about money, I've seen some X670E motherboards listed for around 350€. They're not cheap, but they're not as expensive as we feared (tho there are also some above the 1.000€ mark).



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JEMC said:
hinch said:

Assuming these kick for productivity and gaming against Zen 4 on top of supporting DDR4.. Yeah. Interested to see how Intel will price the 13400 as well, which should be the insane value for money (like the i5 12400) for gamers on a budget.

But yeah Intel should take it easily this year, value wise. Crazy how AMD went from being the budget brand to being premium brand in the space of a few generations.

Don't forget that anything below the 13600K will use Alder Lake architecture, not Rocket Lake.

There may be performance improvements, but they could all come from higher clocks.

Captain_Yuri said:

Intel Launches 13th Gen CPUs: Starting At $294, 5.8GHz, 15% IPC Increase And 41% Multi-Threaded Performance Increase Over Alder Lake

https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-13th-gen-cpus-starting-at-294-5-8ghz-15-ipc-increase-and-41-multi-threaded-performance-increase-over-alder-lake/

Official now. Insane prices and performance and cheaper than what newegg leak showed!

Looks like this time we may have a price war! Betwen chips shortages, crypto shenanigans, etc. it's been a while since we've had similar performing products competing for our money.

By the way, talking about money, I've seen some X670E motherboards listed for around 350€. They're not cheap, but they're not as expensive as we feared (tho there are also some above the 1.000€ mark).

Well KF is still Raptor Lake but yea. The cheaper chips than that will use Alder Lake which is fine enough I suppose since we seen AMD nerf their cheaper chips last gen as well so I wouldn't doubt if they do the same this time.

I do think people should wait a month before buying Zen 4. From what I have seen, the Ryzen 7000 CPUs are still in stock while with Ryzen 5000, they went out of stock within 5-10 minutes of launch. So I don't think people will be buy them in droves this time around and with the Raptor Lake announcement, I suspect we will see those Ryzen CPUs getting discounted pretty quickly.

At that point along with B series launch, I think we can start to make an argument about buying Zen 4. But at the current prices, even with higher power consumption on the table, I think Raptor Lake is the way to go simply because of the insane amount of cores you are getting for the price.

I do think that 7950x will continue to be in the lead for multicore applications though while Raptor Lake will take the lead in gaming.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 27 September 2022

                  

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Intel's slide is kind of amusing

They benchmarked the 5800X3D which clearly beats the 13900k in some games so they tried to hide it by not making it a bar. Someone re-edited that slide to show case the 5800X3D:

5800X3D really showing both Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake how it's done lmao. The 1080 Ti of CPUs boys...



                  

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Oh, Intel. That's pathetic.



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Captain_Yuri said:

Intel's slide is kind of amusing

They benchmarked the 5800X3D which clearly beats the 13900k in some games so they tried to hide it by not making it a bar. Someone re-edited that slide to show case the 5800X3D:

5800X3D really showing both Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake how it's done lmao. The 1080 Ti of CPUs boys...

Oh yeah, between this chart and you guys, I think I'm about to make the right choice.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Reading the review from PCGH, I found out why the X3D beats the Zen 4 in several games: It's the GPU limit. Zen 4 bounces off of it, while the large cache of the X3D allows it to dig a bit deeper into the limit.

In other words, Ampere and Navi 2x are too weak to unleash the power of Zen 4 even just in 720p

Captain_Yuri said:

Crazy how we went from 5600X which was as power efficient as a quad core 3300X to 7600X which requires almost as much power as 16 core 32 thread 5950x. While I am sure raptor lake will be even more nuts in terms of power, efficiency is clearly no longer a priority for any of these companies on desktop. I am looking forward to the laptop comparisons however since that is where we will see the biggest gains in performance per watt.

Keep in mind that they have a different TDP setting. If you set the TDP of the 7600X to 65W it will lose a bit of performance but consume also just about as much as the 5600X while having much more performance.

That being said, AMD should really have released a Ryzen 5 who comes with a TDP of 65W out of the box. Just releasing an uprated 105W variant (and that goes for all the Zen 4 chips so far) makes them look very inefficient.

Club386 has made an article doing that, but they compare the 7950X and 12900K at stock and also limited to 125W and 65W: https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-vs-intel-core-i9-12900k-at-125w-and-65w/

Limited to 125W they don't lose a lot of performace, but at 65W that's another story. The 7600X, and maybe the 7700X, being 105W CPUs, should see lower losses.

By the way, unsurprisingly, there's almost no loss in performance in any games tested except one, Far Cry 6 at 4K.



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JEMC said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Reading the review from PCGH, I found out why the X3D beats the Zen 4 in several games: It's the GPU limit. Zen 4 bounces off of it, while the large cache of the X3D allows it to dig a bit deeper into the limit.

In other words, Ampere and Navi 2x are too weak to unleash the power of Zen 4 even just in 720p

Keep in mind that they have a different TDP setting. If you set the TDP of the 7600X to 65W it will lose a bit of performance but consume also just about as much as the 5600X while having much more performance.

That being said, AMD should really have released a Ryzen 5 who comes with a TDP of 65W out of the box. Just releasing an uprated 105W variant (and that goes for all the Zen 4 chips so far) makes them look very inefficient.

Club386 has made an article doing that, but they compare the 7950X and 12900K at stock and also limited to 125W and 65W: https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-vs-intel-core-i9-12900k-at-125w-and-65w/

Limited to 125W they don't lose a lot of performace, but at 65W that's another story. The 7600X, and maybe the 7700X, being 105W CPUs, should see lower losses.

By the way, unsurprisingly, there's almost no loss in performance in any games tested except one, Far Cry 6 at 4K.

Yeah, PCGH made those tests also (calling them ECO).

While the loss in performance is quite visible in the charts, 65W is still enough for the 7950X to beat the 12900K, both in it's 125W TDP limit and stock versions.

That UHD Far Cry 6 test is severely bottlenecked by something. It's not normal that all the FPS drop from ~100 in 1440p to around a dozen in 2160p; probably needs more VRAM than the 3080 could provide.