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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

1) Cooling headroom doesn't matter in this case because neither GPUs were thermal throttling and had headroom to boost higher if they could

2) Considering the laptop for the 6800M has a power budget of 145 Watt and had the same thermals as the 3080M, there was nothing stopping it from boosting any higher other than it's design. If AMD is limiting it to 116 Watts peak where as Nvidia is allowing their GPUs to boost higher, then it's an inherent flaw with the 6800M design because it's supposed to be rated to go up to 145 Watts unless there's thermal issues which the video says it doesn't.

3) It got slightly smaller where as their presentations made it sound like there would be a big difference when in reality, there really wasn't. Especially when you considering how efficient TSMCs 7nm is supposed to be against Samsung's 8nm.

Why do you think AMD limited the GPU? After all, it's ASUS who produced the laptop, and I'm certain it's them who put the limit in place, not AMD. Otherwise, both would have had comparable power consumption and would have been much more comparable. But the way this is set up, it is like if you would compare a Max-Q with a Max-P version, and of course the Max-P version would win that one.

Firstly it's an AMD Advantage laptop that means AMD was involved with Asus in getting this laptop made. Secondly, Asus has been a champion of AMD laptops and have been working closely together as they were the first to adopt AMD Ryzen cpus. And not to mention Asus shipped it with a 280 Watt power adapter where as the 3080 17 inch has 240 Watt power adapter. And we know their Strix line of laptops mainly focus on performance than anything else. AMD also doesn't have a lower power version of the 6800M according to their own slides.

Also not to mention, AMD rates their clock speed for the 6800M at 2.3 GHz where as the clock speed on this laptop in the video has been 2.5+ GHz. I see no reason to think this was gimped in any way other than 6800M not being able to make use of that 145 Watts power budget unless Linus goofed somehow. Especially since Asus has a pretty good track record with AMD.

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Geekbench CUDA and OpenCL performance leaks

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-geekbench-cuda-and-opencl-performance-leaks

It's in between a 3080 and a 3070 as expected but I'd skip this and get a 3080 if you can find one.

[Rumour] Intel 10nm Alder Lake Desktop CPUs Launching During Halloween 2021, Will Feature Support On New LGA 1700 Socket Motherboards

https://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-alder-lake-desktop-cpus-launching-october-2021-support-lga-1700-socket-motherboards/

Hopefully it won't be Dead on Arrival

Microsoft to reveal its next generation of Windows on June 24th

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465126/microsoft-windows-event-june-24th

The good news is, thanks to Direct X 12 Agility, you don't need to upgrade windows to get the latest direct X features. So if it turns out to be a bug fest, you can wait.

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The news!

SALES /PLAYER COUNT & DEALS

You can nab Battlefield 4 for free (if you've got Prime)
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/nab-a-copy-of-battlefield-4-for-free-with-amazon-prime/
The Battlefield 6 reveal is right around the corner, and in the run-up to the June 9 presentation, Amazon Prime members can snag a copy of Battlefield 4 for free. Between June 1 and June 20, you can grab a code for the standard edition of the game via Prime Gaming on Twitch. You can only grab an Origin code (sorry, Steam purists) but hey, it's free.

At GOG we still have no sign of a new sale, but there are two new releases:

Steam has two new daily deals:

Fanatical hasn't revealed their new Star Deal (for some reason it will do it two hours later than usual), but there have other new deals:

SOFTWARE & DRIVERS

NVIDIA GeForce 466.63 WHQL driver optimized for Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts 2 & No Man’s Sky DLSS
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-geforce-466-63-whql-driver-optimized-for-sniper-ghost-warrior-contracts-2-no-mans-sky-dlss/
NVIDIA has released a brand new driver for its graphics cards. According to the release notes, the NVIDIA GeForce 466.63 WHQL driver offers support for the latest patch for No Man’s Sky which introduces NVIDIA DLSS technology.
Additionally, this new driver offers optimal performance in Chivalry 2 and Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts 2. Moreover, it adds support for the new NVIDIA Reflex integrations in War Thunder and Escape from Tarkov.
>> Available from here.

Nvidia DLSS is coming to boost frame rates for Linux gamers this month
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/nvidia-dlss-steam-proton-play-linux-gaming-announcement/
Computex 2021 has been full of exciting announcements to heighten our gaming experiences, including AMD's sneak preview of FidelityFX Super Resolution, coming June 22. The tech looks set to rival Nvidia's AI-powered upscaling DLSS tech, but the competition refuses to be overshadowed. Nvidia had some announcements on the resolution upscaling front, too, in that it's now partnering with Valve to bring DLSS to Linux gamers.
Through the magic of Steam Proton software (Steam Play), which allows Linux-based gamers to play Microsoft Windows games without a hassle, Linux gamers will soon be able to get in on the Deep Learning Super Sampling love.

MODS, EMULATORS & FAN PROJECTS

8 minutes of gameplay footage from the Fallout 3 Remake Mod in Fallout 4
https://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/8-minutes-of-gameplay-footage-from-the-fallout-3-remake-mod-in-fallout-4/
YouTube’s ‘JuiceHead’ has shared a video, showing 8 minutes of gameplay footage from the latest beta build of the Fallout 3 Remake Mod in Fallout 4, Fallout 4: Capital Wasteland. This video showcases the Point Lookout DLC, so be sure to watch it if you are fans of Fallout 3.

GAMING NEWS

No Man’s Sky Update 3.5 adds DLSS support, full patch notes revealed
https://www.dsogaming.com/patches/no-mans-sky-update-3-5-adds-dlss-support-full-patch-notes-revealed/
Hello Games has released a new patch for No Man’s Sky that adds support for NVIDIA’s DLSS tech. Thanks to Update 3.5, NVIDIA RTX owners can use DLSS in both VR and non-VR modes.

New gameplay trailer for the Souls-like game, Bleak Faith: Forsaken
https://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/new-gameplay-trailer-for-the-souls-like-game-bleak-faith-forsaken/
Miso Vukcevic and Mirko Stanic have released a new gameplay trailer for their upcoming “Dark Souls”-inspired game, Bleak Faith: Forsaken.

Capcom has removed Denuvo from Monster Hunter World
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/capcom-has-removed-denuvo-from-monster-hunter-world/
A few days ago, Square Enix removed the Denuvo anti-tamper tech from DRAGON QUEST XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age – Definitive Edition. And earlier today, Capcom issued a new patch for Monster Hunter World that removed this controversial anti-tamper tech from it too.

The Ascent will support Ray Tracing and DLSS on PC
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-ascent-will-support-ray-tracing-and-dlss-on-pc/
Neon Giant and NVIDIA announced that the upcoming cyberpunk-ish isometric action-shooter RPG, The Ascent, will support both Ray Tracing and DLSS on PC. In order to celebrate this announcement, the teams released a new RTX trailer that you can find below.



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Thursday news, part two:

Studio behind 80 Days surprise launches a whodunnit where youdunnit
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/studio-behind-80-days-surprise-launches-a-whodunnit-where-youdunnit/
There's been a murder on the high seas, and it's up to the passengers to work out whodunnit. Only, you're not trying to solve the case—you're the new-found widow with blood on your hands trying to keep anyone from finding out.
>> It's one of the new releases that are on sale at GOG.

The $77 million PUBG cheating empire smashed by the Chinese cops—and the founder who escaped
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/the-dollar77-million-pubg-cheating-empire-smashed-by-the-chinese-copsand-the-founder-who-escaped/
Cheating has been around in video games forever, but the industry's meteoric success over the last few decades has turned it into a genuine side business. You don't need to look hard to find them: any game worth making cheats for will have someone, somewhere, beavering away on a method of breaking the rules. And, almost always, charging for it.
The phenomenal success of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, and particularly in the Chinese market, has seen it targeted by countless cheats. One of, if not the biggest of all, was called Cheat Ninja, until its closure in January this year. Vice has managed to track down the cheat's original developer for a remarkable story.

Hearthstone is getting new Battlegrounds heroes and minions, and more Standard nerfs
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/hearthstone-is-getting-new-battlegrounds-heroes-and-minions-and-more-standard-nerfs/
Hearthstone's latest mini-set The Wailing Caverns, all of the cards from which have now been revealed, goes live tomorrow as part of the 20.4 patch. And honestly, who isn't excited to own a card called Kresh, Lord of Turtling?
The mini-set isn't all that's being added in this big, beefy new update. The patch notes released today also reveals new heroes and a new minion coming to the Battlegrounds, and a handful of nerfs including another bonk of the bat for Paladin's First Day of School.

Sony Studios boss says not to expect future PS5 exclusives to hit PC at launch
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/sony-studios-boss-says-not-to-expect-future-ps5-exclusives-to-hit-pc-at-launch/
Sony's been going pretty big on PC in recent months. (...)
That doesn't mean that Sony is quite ready to go full sharesies with the PC on all its latest and greatest stuff. In a recent Q&A session on the PlayStation Blog, PlayStation Studios boss Hermen Hulst made it clear that if you want to jump into PlayStation games when they launch, you're going to have to do it on a PlayStation console.
>> Not surprising.

Genshin Impact is coming to the Epic Games Store next week
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/genshin-impact-is-coming-to-the-epic-games-store-next-week/
The mega-popular free-to-play RPG Genshin Impact made a huge splash when it came out in September 2020, despite not being available on any of the usual storefronts: If you want to play, your only option is to do so directly through the MiHoYo website. That will change next week, though, when Genshin Impact makes its June 9 debut on the Epic Games Store.

Mass Effect 3 designer maps out a Mars Rover easter egg kept hidden for 10 years
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/mass-effect-3-designer-maps-out-a-mars-rover-easter-egg-kept-hidden-for-10-years/
Mass Effect 3 is full of vast, horrifying robots. But if you'd like to meet a more whimsical mechanical buddy, one of the game's original developers has revealed how to activate a long-lost Mars rover easter egg.

Apex Legends' DDoS issues are being fixed 'as we speak'
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/apex-legends-ddos-issues-are-being-fixed-as-we-speak/
Respawn says it's taking "huge steps" towards a solution for the DDoS issues that have been persisting in Apex Legends for the last few months, being "just as frustrated" as the players over the situation.

Ex-Riot devs unveil Palia, a community MMO that's more focused on baking pies than slaying beasts
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/ex-riot-devs-unveil-palia-a-community-mmo-thats-more-focused-on-baking-pies-than-slaying-beasts/
Back in 2018, ex-Riot developers Aidan Karabaich and Anthony Leung formed Singularity 6 with the intention of delivering "alternate worlds that deepen players' lives." Now three years later, the studio has announced their first game called Palia, a "community sim MMO" that looks a little bit Sims and a little bit Animal Crossing, with a sprinkle of Final Fantasy 14's social aspect.

Fortnite is getting a graphics upgrade
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/fortnite-pc-graphics-update/
Epic Games has announced that Fortnite is receiving a significant graphics overhaul as part of the game's 17.00 update, which kicks off season 7 on June 8.

Elite Dangerous: Odyssey gets another massive bug-fixing update
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/elite-dangerous-odyssey-gets-another-massive-bug-fixing-update/
Elite's latest expansion landed in something of a sorry state a few weeks back, so riddled with bugs and issues that Frontier boss David Braben felt compelled to apologise "wholeheartedly" for Odyssey's state at launch. Since then, the studio has been working hard to patch up the expansion, releasing a hefty 5GB update full of bug fixes last week.
Now, Odyssey is receiving a second maintenance patch, this time coming in at a slightly smaller 3.5GB. The game's patch notes show a laundry list of corrections, from fixes to AI at planetary outposts, broad rebalancing of the game's audio, and a host of changes to lighting, UI, cosmetics and more.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

So I did find another source that measures power consumption for the 6800M. It's the same laptop as the one that Linus used.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3620212/amd-radeon-rx-6800m-review.html?page=2

According to pcworld, the 6800m peaks at 185 Watts during furmark and during their 3080m comparison in 3dmark, the 6800m consistently used higher wattage than the 3080m. Now this makes more sense than Linus because the 6800m gets shipped with a 280 Watt power adapter vs the 3080 in the 17 inch ships with a 240 Watt power adapter. Both Linus and PCworld used the 3080 in the 17 inch. Of course, the one consistency is that the 6800m loses to the 3080m in majority of the gaming and workstation benchmarks regardless.



                  

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JEMC said:

Sony Studios boss says not to expect future PS5 exclusives to hit PC at launch
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/sony-studios-boss-says-not-to-expect-future-ps5-exclusives-to-hit-pc-at-launch/
Sony's been going pretty big on PC in recent months. (...)
That doesn't mean that Sony is quite ready to go full sharesies with the PC on all its latest and greatest stuff. In a recent Q&A session on the PlayStation Blog, PlayStation Studios boss Hermen Hulst made it clear that if you want to jump into PlayStation games when they launch, you're going to have to do it on a PlayStation console.
>> Not surprising.

So there is a chance of God of War Ragnarok and Gran Turismo 7 and Horizon Forbidden West to hit PC at launch... since they aren't PS5 exclusives.



Honestly I feel like selling my ps5 at a profit and re-buying it in 3 years when it's back in stock and we get some actual exclusives. But I do want to play FFVIIR remastered so maybe I'll think about it after I finish my replay.



                  

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Conina said:
JEMC said:

Sony Studios boss says not to expect future PS5 exclusives to hit PC at launch
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/sony-studios-boss-says-not-to-expect-future-ps5-exclusives-to-hit-pc-at-launch/
Sony's been going pretty big on PC in recent months. (...)
That doesn't mean that Sony is quite ready to go full sharesies with the PC on all its latest and greatest stuff. In a recent Q&A session on the PlayStation Blog, PlayStation Studios boss Hermen Hulst made it clear that if you want to jump into PlayStation games when they launch, you're going to have to do it on a PlayStation console.
>> Not surprising.

So there is a chance of God of War Ragnarok and Gran Turismo 7 and Horizon Forbidden West to hit PC at launch... since they aren't PS5 exclusives.

That's the right attitude, always keep dreaming.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

Captain_Yuri said:

Honestly I feel like selling my ps5 at a profit and re-buying it in 3 years when it's back in stock and we get some actual exclusives. But I do want to play FFVIIR remastered so maybe I'll think about it after I finish my replay.

I did, decided to jump on EVGA 3080 Ti auto notify this morning and wait two/three months at worst. Feel the new gen is just pointless at this moment in time, rather wait for few years.



Random_Matt said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Honestly I feel like selling my ps5 at a profit and re-buying it in 3 years when it's back in stock and we get some actual exclusives. But I do want to play FFVIIR remastered so maybe I'll think about it after I finish my replay.

I did, decided to jump on EVGA 3080 Ti auto notify this morning and wait two/three months at worst. Feel the new gen is just pointless at this moment in time, rather wait for few years.

Yea, when I bought my ps5, I was under the impression that there would be some cross gen games but by 2022 with things like GoW, it would be all next gen. Since Sony says they will continue to have cross gen games, it's makes the purchase more meh than I'd like. Hopefully the playstation event will persuade me to keep it.



                  

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