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Yeah. Basically a desktop Radeon 7400 or Mobile Radeon 7600M.

It's not a 4k 60fps machine like they advertised, it would likely struggle with 1080P medium settings in modern games.

16GB of Ram sucks.
CPU being only 6 cores is not the end of the world, but it will lack longevity, for any gaming machine you need 8 cores or better ideally, especially in CPU intensive games like Civilization which benefits greatly from the extra resources.

JEMC said:

Interesting.

I saw an article earlier today about the rumored new controller, and it's now confirmed to be true... like a post from MLID saying that Valve would reveal something today. 

We'll see how Valve prices it because, let's face it, the GPU isn't exactly great (what is it, a 7600M?) and those 8GB of VRAM could become a problem with newer games. But I still haven't checked the DF video.

The headset is also surprising. I thought they'd try to use the hardware of the Deck to make it easier to run games and other software, but ARM makes more sense.


Keep in mind that idiot "MLID" also said that the Steam Machine would be running with Zen6 CPU cores and would compete with Sony's Playstation 6 console.
So whilst he is correct on some stuff... He is grossly incorrect on many others.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 12 November 2025

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Pemalite said:

Yeah. Basically a desktop Radeon 7400 or Mobile Radeon 7600M.

It's not a 4k 60fps machine like they advertised, it would likely struggle with 1080P medium settings in modern games.

16GB of Ram sucks.
CPU being only 6 cores is not the end of the world, but it will lack longevity, for any gaming machine you need 8 cores or better ideally, especially in CPU intensive games like Civilization which benefits greatly from the extra resources.

JEMC said:

Interesting.

I saw an article earlier today about the rumored new controller, and it's now confirmed to be true... like a post from MLID saying that Valve would reveal something today. 

We'll see how Valve prices it because, let's face it, the GPU isn't exactly great (what is it, a 7600M?) and those 8GB of VRAM could become a problem with newer games. But I still haven't checked the DF video.

The headset is also surprising. I thought they'd try to use the hardware of the Deck to make it easier to run games and other software, but ARM makes more sense.


Keep in mind that idiot "MLID" also said that the Steam Machine would be running with Zen6 CPU cores and would compete with Sony's Playstation 6 console.
So whilst he is correct on some stuff... He is grossly incorrect on many others.

My comment was more in line of "Hey, he got something right for once!", not to praise him or anything.

Also, the CPU in the Steam Machine will be more than fine as it will be the GPU that will be the bottleneck here. An 8-core one would have been a waste of resources and add unnecessary costs.



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I do hope they get the price right, especially as ram prices are going up. If they market this as a console alternative, it might be a hard sell unless it's at $400-$500 but even then it may have issues against the ps5/seriesX. But as an affordable PC, I think $600 USD is the highest they can price this as the lowest 5060 desktop I found is $749 and the 5060 desktop will likely be a lot more powerful than the steam machine with it's laptop gpu.

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-5-120-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-1tb-pcie-ssd-ca120f5060-black/p/N82E16883360908?Item=N82E16883360908&SoldByNewegg=1

  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • CPU: Intel Core 5 processor 120 (18M Cache, up to 4.50 GHz)
  • GPU: PNY Dual Fan OC GeForce RTX 5060 8GB GDDR7
  • Motherboard: ASRock B760M-C/D4 (BULK) LGA 1700 Intel B760 Micro ATX Motherboard
  • RAM: Patriot SIGNATURE PREMIUM 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200
  • SSD: Kingston SNV3S M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
  • CPU Cooler: Montech ARGB CPU Air Cooler
  • PSU: ATX2.0 650W 80+ Gold
  • Case: ABS Cyclone mATX Gaming Case
  • Dimension: 12.62" x 7.87" x 16.34"
  • AI Ready: Yes



Imo:
$400 = Fuck yes pricing
$500 = Great pricing
$600 = Decent pricing



                  

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Bofferbrauer2 said:

Speaking of Steam Deck, anybody tried installing/playing games from other stores like GOG on it?

I don't have a Steam Deck, but there's a Linux app called Lutris that allows installing games from GOG and some other stores, and it has installation instructions for Steam Deck as well. The last time I checked a while back, it didn't support achievements for GOG, which is a shame, but at least games (not sure if just Linux games or Windows games as well) should be available with relative ease.



JEMC said:
Pemalite said:

Yeah. Basically a desktop Radeon 7400 or Mobile Radeon 7600M.

It's not a 4k 60fps machine like they advertised, it would likely struggle with 1080P medium settings in modern games.

16GB of Ram sucks.
CPU being only 6 cores is not the end of the world, but it will lack longevity, for any gaming machine you need 8 cores or better ideally, especially in CPU intensive games like Civilization which benefits greatly from the extra resources.


Keep in mind that idiot "MLID" also said that the Steam Machine would be running with Zen6 CPU cores and would compete with Sony's Playstation 6 console.
So whilst he is correct on some stuff... He is grossly incorrect on many others.

My comment was more in line of "Hey, he got something right for once!", not to praise him or anything.

Also, the CPU in the Steam Machine will be more than fine as it will be the GPU that will be the bottleneck here. An 8-core one would have been a waste of resources and add unnecessary costs.

I mean, yeah. The GPU is garbage. Ideally I would have liked to have seen a Radeon RX 9060 8GB... Just for FSR4 and the massively improved RT performance.
Or even a cutdown RX 9060 8GB would have been better than the Radeon RX 6600/7400 level GPU.

We can't ignore the long term driver support issue either, AMD has already hinted it wants to depreciate older RDNA architectures rapidly... Making the RDNA3 GPU a bad choice.

But games that aren't super GPU bound like Cities Skylines, Civilization. I.E. RTS/TBS games, the extra CPU headroom would have been good... Maybe I am a CPU core snob, I haven't had anything less than 8-cores for 15 years now... Even AMD's handheld chips like the Z2 Extreme tend to have 8 cores now.



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So....

I'm eager to see how they managed x86/x64 to ARM translation in Frame.

Most current approaches are JIT (Just-In-Time) translation layer, but part of why x64 code runs so well on Apple's ARM hardware is AOT (Ahead-of-Time) compilation, so I'm wondering if Valve will have AOT code cache that will be distributed once you install PC game on ARM device, like they do with shader cache for games on Deck.

Other thing is unfortunately hardware dependent - Apple's M chipsets are built with TSO, Total Store Order for memory, so that they can run PC code in memory as it was intended, which reduces a lot overheads (ARM uses WMO, Weak Memory Order) - at least this is how I understood it. This can be achieved only if Qualcomm decides to invest more aggressively in ARM gaming handhelds ecosytem (or even maybe collaborates with Valve on this) and makes future SoCs with this particular feature.



Oh...that FOVeated streaming is really good - being able to push over WiFi only max resolution and clarity where your eyes are looking is almost as big as FOVeated rendering.



So, unofficial name, it seems, has already caught on - GabeCube



Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

I do hope they get the price right, especially as ram prices are going up. If they market this as a console alternative, it might be a hard sell unless it's at $400-$500 but even then it may have issues against the ps5/seriesX. But as an affordable PC, I think $600 USD is the highest they can price this as the lowest 5060 desktop I found is $749 and the 5060 desktop will likely be a lot more powerful than the steam machine with it's laptop gpu.

https://www.newegg.com/abs-cyclone-aqua-gaming-desktop-geforce-rtx-5060-intel-core-5-120-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-1tb-pcie-ssd-ca120f5060-black/p/N82E16883360908?Item=N82E16883360908&SoldByNewegg=1

  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • CPU: Intel Core 5 processor 120 (18M Cache, up to 4.50 GHz)
  • GPU: PNY Dual Fan OC GeForce RTX 5060 8GB GDDR7
  • Motherboard: ASRock B760M-C/D4 (BULK) LGA 1700 Intel B760 Micro ATX Motherboard
  • RAM: Patriot SIGNATURE PREMIUM 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200
  • SSD: Kingston SNV3S M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 4.0 x4 NVMe SSD
  • CPU Cooler: Montech ARGB CPU Air Cooler
  • PSU: ATX2.0 650W 80+ Gold
  • Case: ABS Cyclone mATX Gaming Case
  • Dimension: 12.62" x 7.87" x 16.34"
  • AI Ready: Yes



Imo:
$400 = Fuck yes pricing
$500 = Great pricing
$600 = Decent pricing

I tried on Alternate to configure a similarly-powerful machine (and with similar specs) and got to this:

I could have saved a bit more on cooling and PSU (and go for the 7600 that was still available, but it would only have saved me 16€), so guess ~680€ would be the price of a similarly-specced PC without assembly.

Of course, they get the parts cheaper, so if we assume a 15% combined cut from store and producer we'd be at 578€, 544€ with a 20% cut.

So I expect 549€ if sold at a small margin, 599€ for a bigger margin and 499€ if sold at a loss to recoup through sales on Steam



Valve says Steam Deck 2 must wait for stronger hardware architecture

https://videocardz.com/newz/valve-says-steam-deck-2-must-wait-for-stronger-hardware-architecture

Samsung’s Galaxy Book6 Pro leaks as first laptop powered by Intel Arc B390 Xe3 integrated graphics

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsungs-galaxy-book6-pro-leaks-as-first-laptop-powered-by-intel-arc-b390-xe3-integrated-graphics

Intel adds XeSS Frame Generation support to “Meteor Lake” iGPUs, XMX requirement dropped

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-adds-xess-frame-generation-support-to-meteor-lake-igpus-xmx-requirement-dropped

ASRock X870 Riptide Pops Ryzen 7800X3D And Burns Socket Horribly

https://wccftech.com/asrock-x870-riptide-pops-ryzen-7800x3d-and-burns-socket-horribly/

AMD Zen 6 “EPYC Venice” CPUs Offer Over 70% Performance & Efficiency Improvement, 30% In Thread Density]

https://wccftech.com/amd-next-gen-zen-6-cpus-over-70-percent-performance-efficiency-improvement/

Rising RAM Prices Could Be the Next Big Problem for PC Gamers, as ASUS Warns of ‘Massive’ Price Hikes if Shortages Continue

https://wccftech.com/rising-ram-prices-could-be-the-next-big-problem-for-pc-gamers/



                  

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