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Personally I haven't seen much of a reason to recommend Radeon over Nvidia outside of definitive wins like 9070 vs 5070 since the 12gb of vram is too much of a cuck. Nvidias RTX features including DLSS and Ray Tracing are now available in over 860 games/apps.
Reflex itself is available in over 150 games vs less than 25 for Anti lag 2 and over 95 for FSR4. You could include fsr1/2/3 titles but unless we are kidding ourselves, all 3 of those have been proven to be garbage so recommending someone based on those 3 fsr versions is doing them a disservice imo.

The other issue is Radeon themselves and their track record. Last year their carelessness got peoples accounts banned with anti lag 2. This year, they tried to cuck rdna 2 and 1 from getting day 1 driver updates. Neither of those are likely to get FSR4. Meanwhile Turing which released before RDNA 1 in 2018 has gotten DLSS 4 transformer model.

I could go on but I don't really see the point in recommending Radeon products unless there's a big price gap or the Nvidia counterpart is severely cucked. They aren't Ryzen offering 8 cores for the price of 4 cores, 4-5 years of socket support vs 2 years from intel. Etc. Radeons worst enemy is it's leadership making stupid decisions instead of being long term focused.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 08 November 2025

                  

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Gaming performance and features aside Nvidia is the only logical choice for a lot of the creative work I do. Some DCC's are practically built around NV's architecture and features. The more Radeon customers the merrier though to keep NV from getting too complacent (or too astronomically expensive).



Zkuq said:

An unpopular opinion perhaps, but DLSS and frame gen have been very useful to me with my RTX 4060, so they definitely increase the value of Nvidia cards in my books. AMD is catching up for sure, but it's 'catching up', not 'caught up', and that includes years worth of previously released games too. I hate that DLSS and frame gen are relied on so heavily, but here we are - ignoring them would be worse to me than using them. I imagine I'm not the only one to think this way.

I've also been leaning on DLSS and Frame Generation to hit 4K 240 FPS on my 5080. It varies from game to game, and I end up doing a lot of tweaking to find what works best.

For a game I'm playing now - Silent Hill 2 Remake for example, the sweet spot I’ve found is Max Settings, DLSS Quality, and 3× Frame Gen with Ray Tracing turned off. Enabling Ray Tracing with 3× or 4× frame gen causes some noticeable ghosting, presumably because the base frame rate gets a bit low. 



I absolutely do NOT regret buying the 9060XT 16GB over anything else on the market. At the time nVidia was a poor option, they were more expensive, they were slower, they had less VRAM.
It runs everything I want brilliantly on my 1440P, 144hz panel... I also prefer native over DLSS or FSR anyway... And stuff frame gen added latency.
The 16GB of VRAM has been a massive boon for my A.I upscaling of my video collection on my NAS, it's saved literal weeks of processing time so far.

However... With that in mind, Optiscaler will intercept DLSS calls and run them on the FSR anyway, making the DLSS argument redundant.
AMD's Frame Gen is better than nVidia's.

I think people forget the PC is not a static environment and where there is a will, there is a way. I.E. FSR instead of DLSS in DLSS only games.

nVidia gets the sales because they are seen as the "Premium" and "Better" choice, when in reality on a day-by-day basis, it's simply not the case.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Personally I haven't seen much of a reason to recommend Radeon over Nvidia outside of definitive wins like 9070 vs 5070 since the 12gb of vram is too much of a cuck. Nvidias RTX features including DLSS and Ray Tracing are now available in over 860 games/apps.
Reflex itself is available in over 150 games vs less than 25 for Anti lag 2 and over 95 for FSR4. You could include fsr1/2/3 titles but unless we are kidding ourselves, all 3 of those have been proven to be garbage so recommending someone based on those 3 fsr versions is doing them a disservice imo.

The other issue is Radeon themselves and their track record. Last year their carelessness got peoples accounts banned with anti lag 2. This year, they tried to cuck rdna 2 and 1 from getting day 1 driver updates. Neither of those are likely to get FSR4. Meanwhile Turing which released before RDNA 1 in 2018 has gotten DLSS 4 transformer model.

I could go on but I don't really see the point in recommending Radeon products unless there's a big price gap or the Nvidia counterpart is severely cucked. They aren't Ryzen offering 8 cores for the price of 4 cores, 4-5 years of socket support vs 2 years from intel. Etc. Radeons worst enemy is it's leadership making stupid decisions instead of being long term focused.

I agree with your points but, and I'm fully aware that this is my very personal opinion, to me, buying any of the Nvidia 5000 series would be like a validation of their hideous marketing campaign, with those 5070=4090 slides or the ones comparing cards running native versus DLSS and frame gen.

And I don't want to reward a company that lies so blatantly to my face.



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Well, after trying Star Wars Outlaws demo...yeah, nVidia is the way to go currently, if you want things like Ray Reconstruction and RTXDI (and I find them they make quite a difference), so currently they still have upper hand.

That said, AMD will up their game significantly in next generation of GPUs.

Last edited by HoloDust - on 10 November 2025

I didn't know about OptiScaler but now I do, so that's definitely nice. I kind of thought it wouldn't be possible or that it would be too inefficient to work out, or just have other issues. Anyway, it definitely lessens the software advantage of Nvidia for me. I've never really liked my RTX 4060 but it's too soon to upgrade, but perhaps come next generation and its equivalent cards (so in two-ish years, I guess?), there's a good chance I'll upgrade, and hopefully I'll remember OptiScaler too.



Zkuq said:

I didn't know about OptiScaler but now I do, so that's definitely nice. I kind of thought it wouldn't be possible or that it would be too inefficient to work out, or just have other issues. Anyway, it definitely lessens the software advantage of Nvidia for me. I've never really liked my RTX 4060 but it's too soon to upgrade, but perhaps come next generation and its equivalent cards (so in two-ish years, I guess?), there's a good chance I'll upgrade, and hopefully I'll remember OptiScaler too.

One thing people forget to mention about Optiscaler is that dependenting on how sensitive the anti-cheat engine or drm is on the game, you could get your account banned if you use it. This is true especially for online games and there have been many documented cases of this happening. So I'd be careful mainly for online games. Also depending on the engine the game uses and how locked down it is, it may not work properly as well. But most games that are single player should work.

 https://optiscaler.com/what-games-does-optiscaler-work-on/



                  

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JEMC said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Personally I haven't seen much of a reason to recommend Radeon over Nvidia outside of definitive wins like 9070 vs 5070 since the 12gb of vram is too much of a cuck. Nvidias RTX features including DLSS and Ray Tracing are now available in over 860 games/apps.
Reflex itself is available in over 150 games vs less than 25 for Anti lag 2 and over 95 for FSR4. You could include fsr1/2/3 titles but unless we are kidding ourselves, all 3 of those have been proven to be garbage so recommending someone based on those 3 fsr versions is doing them a disservice imo.

The other issue is Radeon themselves and their track record. Last year their carelessness got peoples accounts banned with anti lag 2. This year, they tried to cuck rdna 2 and 1 from getting day 1 driver updates. Neither of those are likely to get FSR4. Meanwhile Turing which released before RDNA 1 in 2018 has gotten DLSS 4 transformer model.

I could go on but I don't really see the point in recommending Radeon products unless there's a big price gap or the Nvidia counterpart is severely cucked. They aren't Ryzen offering 8 cores for the price of 4 cores, 4-5 years of socket support vs 2 years from intel. Etc. Radeons worst enemy is it's leadership making stupid decisions instead of being long term focused.

I agree with your points but, and I'm fully aware that this is my very personal opinion, to me, buying any of the Nvidia 5000 series would be like a validation of their hideous marketing campaign, with those 5070=4090 slides or the ones comparing cards running native versus DLSS and frame gen.

And I don't want to reward a company that lies so blatantly to my face.

Out of all the reasons to not buy Nvidia, I feel like marketing shouldn't be the main reason since both companies miss lead customers. Like you would actually rather support a company that tried to screw people who bought their gpu from 3 years ago with driver updates and who are unlikely to get fsr4 over Nvidia's marketing nonsense? Really? Come on man lol



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
JEMC said:

I agree with your points but, and I'm fully aware that this is my very personal opinion, to me, buying any of the Nvidia 5000 series would be like a validation of their hideous marketing campaign, with those 5070=4090 slides or the ones comparing cards running native versus DLSS and frame gen.

And I don't want to reward a company that lies so blatantly to my face.

Out of all the reasons to not buy Nvidia, I feel like marketing shouldn't be the main reason since both companies miss lead customers. Like you would actually rather support a company that tried to screw people who bought their gpu from 3 years ago with driver updates and who are unlikely to get fsr4 over Nvidia's marketing nonsense? Really? Come on man lol

Apples and oranges although, in this case, both rotten and disgusting.

As I said when the news broke out, I don't support what AMD is doing... or not doing. Sometimes the Radeon branch seems to be run by incompetents and this latest f*ck up is the latest example. Whatever the case may be or what they were trying to achieve, the only thing they've managed is to draw so much attention to their future drivers from both the media and users that if they fail to do what they've said in their third or fourth statement, we'll know and the st*tstorm will be of biblical proportions.

Nvidia lies for the dumbest reason possible: to make themselves look better. And it's pointless because the only people that will pay attention to those slides are, again, the media and the more informed users, the only ones that will see the BS in them.

If forced to choose, I can deal with someone incompetent, but I can't do it with a liar. I can foresee and prepare for what the first one might do, but I can't do that with the later.

But, as I said in my post, I'm well aware that this is a very personal opinion.



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