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It’s also revealed that the 24 hour check-in is a means to update your library, for when you lend games to friends. Which is funny because the with game trades limited, why would it need updating every 24 hours? No good answers there and no clear understanding as to why it inconveniences consumers.

Yet another person confusing game lending with family sharing. I'm not sure if this is the interview I'm thinking of, but if it is, Major Nelson was talking about sharing your library with "family," not the one-time gifting system. Besides, there is no lending system on the XBOne; It's not lending if you can never get your game back. That's called "gifting." Or "selling."



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
TheSting said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If the PS4 isnt a threat, why is Microsoft in the gaming industry?


To make money lol. They aren't looking at PS4 like us.


MS isnt in the console industry just to make money. The money they make from gaming is nothing compared to their true endeavors which the Xbox one is all about. Think about it. Sony was dipping into multimedia, so they came to attack Sony and succeeded in diverting their marketshare. They succeeded in that, so now they want to increase their efforts by extending their battle with Apple to the gaming industry. If their competition gets snuffed out that means more to them than the money.

Yep that's also why I wrote they aren't looking at Ps4 like us gamers. It's not a lot compared to other endeavors but still. Not arguing regardless though 



Microsoft cares what Google and Apple are doing. Sony is peanuts



tuscaniman99 said:
Microsoft cares what Google and Apple are doing. Sony is peanuts


Maybe if that were the case, Windows Phone 8 wouldn't have ended up in the position it's in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U#t=12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLRtUGviSc8#t=16

Their very problem was that they cared *too much* what Sony was doing 10-15 years ago, and they made a huge bet on the domination of the living room via convergance devices, completely missing the fact that the real battle would be in consumers' pockets, a place in which they were already the dominant player.

Though that attitude seems to be changing, and now they're writing off Sony just like they wrote off Apple and Google so long ago, while choosing to focus on replacing cable boxes as if that guarantees success over and above those fools at Sony and Nintendo focusing primarily on video games.

They have a habit of aiming at the wrong markets, causing their presence in markets in which they're already well entrenched to suffer.



makingmusic476 said:
tuscaniman99 said:
Microsoft cares what Google and Apple are doing. Sony is peanuts


Maybe if that were the case, Windows Phone 8 wouldn't have ended up in the position it's in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U#t=12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLRtUGviSc8#t=16

Their very problem was that they cared *too much* what Sony was doing 10-15 years ago, and they made a huge bet on the domination of the living room via convergance devices, completely missing the fact that the real battle would be in consumers' pockets, a place in which they were already the dominant player.

Though that attitude seems to be changing, and now they're writing off Sony just like they wrote off Apple and Google so long ago, while choosing to focus on replacing cable boxes as if that guarantees success over and above those fools at Sony and Nintendo focusing primarily on video games.

They have a habit of aiming at the wrong markets, causing their presence in markets in which they're already well entrenched to suffer.

Exactly!

The real battle was for mobile devices which Google and Apple pretty much own.

The living room control just isn't as important as they thought it was. How many hours a day do you spend watching TV compared to having your mobile phone with you?

They've bet on the wrong horse.



 

 

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RenCutypoison said:
yo_john117 said:
RenCutypoison said:

How could having an always-on-always-listening-always-watching-and-probable-hacker's-primary-future-target-device in the army be a good thing ?

It's been said again and again that you can control Kinect so it isn't always listening or always watching. 

@ the bolded: As opposed to what? Every other internet connected device ever made? Not to mention if they have the Xbox connected to an armed forces internet network (which they would if they are on a base), then I'd say good luck to any hacker that tries that.


Backdoor collect informations from internal connection, than send it when on global net.

Same for others console for that, of course, but I still feel like they are thousands of way to use kinect (but that's probably cause every hardware specialised guy in my school does crazy stuff with kinect (like hand driven drone))

What I meant by "good luck to any hacker that tries that." is any hacker that tries to hack into a military network is going to have a rough time for pretty obvious reasons. :-p

I just don't see Kinect being abused any more than any other popular, internet connected device out there. Sure it's always a possibility, but a pretty unlikely one in the grand scheme of things.



yo_john117 said:
RenCutypoison said:
Deyon said:

 

As for military personnel playing consoles: the defense given is that PS3/PS4 won’t be allowed on DoD networks. So the whole issue of military members switching to the PlayStation while on deployment is a non-issue. Scroll down in the comments on that thread, and you’ll find military personnel who agree – but state that they can still play offline. Also, how would that inspired a switch to the Xbox One, since it needs to be online?

How could having an always-on-always-listening-always-watching-and-probable-hacker's-primary-future-target-device in the army be a good thing ?

It's been said again and again that you can control Kinect so it isn't always listening or always watching. 

@ the bolded: As opposed to what? Every other internet connected device ever made? Not to mention if they have the Xbox connected to an armed forces internet network (which they would if they are on a base), then I'd say good luck to any hacker that tries that.

you know you can also turn off your PC webcam from monitoring you unless of course your PC has become comprimised with Malware at which point the options you select don't mean jack while someone else is in control of whats happening. It's just giving hackers a camera which is guarenteed to be on 100% of the time.



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Why are people making a big deal about the military not being able to play the Xbox 1? They represent a very very tiny share of the market so whichever console they buy won't make a big difference.



    

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TheSting said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If the PS4 isnt a threat, why is Microsoft in the gaming industry?


To make money lol. They aren't looking at PS4 like us.


What money?  I don't think they have made an overall profit from xbox and 360.  Sure they are making yearly profit now off 360 but they have huge losses for the xbox and early years of 360.



MoHasanie said:
Why are people making a big deal about the military not being able to play the Xbox 1? They represent a very very tiny share of the market so whichever console they buy won't make a big difference.


it's not so much about them selling to the military or the share of the market, Microsoft in the past donated a massive amount of xbox360 hardware and software for the american troops fighting abroad so that in bases in Iraq etc they could have some home comforts there with them when they had time off. It's just bad for PR when you can't really give troops a console which is going to get homesick too when you take it abroad :D



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