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Otakumegane said:
RicardJulianti said:
It's funny to me that people claim that Nintendo doesn't have any third party support....when that simply isn't true. They have far more confirmed developers than they do ones that aren't outright supporting them.

Crytek, Capcom, Ubisoft, TT Games, WB, Square Enix, Criterion, Atlus, Namco Bandai, Sega, Platinum and Indie devs popping up left and right; versus EA (minus Criterion), Deep Silver, Epic (UE3 support only), and CD Projekt RED.

Anyone else is pure speculation on either side of the argument until E3 is said and done. There are almost no games announced for next-gen consoles anyway so it is a little early to say that they won't have any third party support. This is a fairly old article, but it definitely tells where the industry is headed. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos


Crytek-EA making sure WiiU never gets games, even though Crysis ran on WiiU.

Capcom-MH3U is a port. So is Resident Evil:R

Ubisoft-Ok yeah this one's decnet.

Square Enix-Deus Ex director's cut. Pretty much a dang port. DQX also a port.

Criterion-Port NFSMW

Platinum-You do realize Nintendo bought these guys for the games.

Bamco-Tank!Tank!Tank tanked. 

Sega-Sonic sells well on Nintendo consoles. Actually there are people that don't know Sega isn't a Nintendo character.

Everyone else-UE4. Pretty much that.


Crytek is not EA, Crysis and only Crysis is. I will say that it might just be CryEngine 3 support, though they do seem to be willing to develop for Wii U. The CEO said  that they don't have a business plan for Wii U at the moment (back in June and likely because it was too early) but that, "[there is] a game in development from a respected developer that we will be announcing. I've seen the game running and it looks really great" If he was referring to Crysis 3, he wouldn't have said "respected developer" or that they didn't have a business plan to develop for it.

Capcom - This is more about the relationship (as are most of them). They already have games on the system, doesn't matter if it is a port, they could have just as easily skipped MH3U and RE altogether.  

Square Enix - Again, relationships. If they are going to be focusing more on lower budget titles that may not fully appeal to the Western audience in order to not go bankrupt, Nintendo is the way to go. Lower budget by default, Japanese dominance. They didn't have to bring any games to the Wii U, but again....they are.

Criterion - Didn't have to port the game at all, and they made the definitive version, period. It would have been out at launch, but Nintendo was spotty with their dev kit support. They have also said that they will bring all NFS games to Wii U simultaneously.

Platinum - Still 3rd party. Nintendo has always had a good relationship with Platinum and Kamiya is a massive fan. It doesn't matter if the game is being published or funded by Nintendo, the 3rd party developer still remains independent. 

Namco Bandai - Forget about Smash? They are helping develop it. Again, relationships. They are still a third party that is confirmed to be working on a Wii U game, and that will help them become more familiar with the system. 

Sega - Doesn't matter if people don't understand that Sonic isn't a Nintendo character, they are still a 3rd party working on games.

Unreal Engine 4 won't be nearly as wide-spread as UE3 was. Developers are starting to create more in-house engines since it is cheaper than buying middleware. They have full control over it and its capabilities as well. Nintendo will likely license out the engine Retro has developed as well, no reason not to. Word is, it's spectacular.

They do have third party support, however veiled it might be at the moment. Pretty much every console launch in history is plagued with ports in the beginning. It's just the way it is.



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Well I smile at the fact that they are dumb xD and that WiiU is selling like half as much as PS3 without even having games so I dont see the problem :)


btw just look at GT you have Pachter who has no idea what he is talking about then you have some stupid british whiner that constantly has to say stuff like SHIT FUCK etc. Then you have the host that always interupts others because he thinks he is the most important. And then you have random people talking about stuff they have sometimes no relation to like PC devs talking about consoles or indie devs talking about Call of Duty etc.
or in this case people talking about a Nintendo system where noone has an idea whats going on but Nintendo and guess how many Nintendo representatives were there? none xD

Bonus round is a joke :)



twilight_link said:

A Confederacy of Dunces, exact image of this CoD and GTA driven industry, retards and fools are THE mainstream.

 

This Nintendo bashing is nothing new it was invented at the dawn of the 5th generation (SNES vs. Genesis), its was an instant success co-invented by 3rd parties and Sega of America, paradoxically the first victim was Sega itself.


You're seriously gonna rip on GTA? Now you're just trolling fool. 



sethnintendo said:
BluGamer23 said:
JoeTheBro said:
BluGamer23 said:

Nintendoland and NSMBU system sellers? HAHAHAHAHAHA .. you should have been on that panel! 

How is NSMBU not a system seller? Also Nintendoland isn't a system seller, but Nintendo was hoping it would be.

NSMBU looks the same as the wii version only in HD.. some minor changes.. why would anyone buy the same game twice?...majorty cant tell the difference.

You should ask this question to CoD players or anyone that buys sports games yearly.


COD is a different type of addiction.. Most people buy it for the multiplayer part.. hence the massive amount of people online playing it nightly.. 

compare that to NSMBU .. how often does that get played each day?.. would people actually play this daily?.. there is no variety.. you always know where the 'enemies' will be because it is AI... 

now COD.. it has the 'competiveness addiction' ... just the same as people are addicted to sports coz of the 'competitiveness' ... NSMBU do not have this.. and since it looks the same as the wii version.. why buy it again?.. 



 

happydolphin said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Having a multi-billion dollar round up off franchises and letting it go to waste because you stick to an aged business strategy is indeed laughable at best.

What does that have to do with their roundtable though? That wasn't the topic, and your assessment couldn't dream of being remotely true.

It does have something to do with it, Pachter was there and he has said the same thing on numerous occasions. Not that i'm such a big fan of Pachter but he is right on this. I'm not going into details yet again but i think you can understand that if Wii-U ends up selling 30m than that smaller install base will severely limit the amount of software Nintendo can sell.



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chapset said:
Wow Nintendo fans want the entire industry to fall because their beloved company might not be number one this gen so they can tell us I told you so

lol who said tha? are you overreacting?



NightDragon83 said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Well the laughing part was somewhat silly perhaps, but the Wii U is kind of irrelevant in terms of 3rd party support when compared to the PS4 and 720, which is what they were laughing at.


they also talked about wii u not really being next gen, so i guess ps 2 wasn't next gen back then?

Ummm... are you saying PS2 was on par with Saturn/PlayStation/N64 then?  Otherwise that makes absolutely no sense.  The technical gaps from PS2 to GC/Xbox is completely different than Wii U to PS4/720 or Wii to PS360.

wii u isn't on par with last gen



Th3PANO said:
NightDragon83 said:
Th3PANO said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Well the laughing part was somewhat silly perhaps, but the Wii U is kind of irrelevant in terms of 3rd party support when compared to the PS4 and 720, which is what they were laughing at.


they also talked about wii u not really being next gen, so i guess ps 2 wasn't next gen back then?

Ummm... are you saying PS2 was on par with Saturn/PlayStation/N64 then?  Otherwise that makes absolutely no sense.  The technical gaps from PS2 to GC/Xbox is completely different than Wii U to PS4/720 or Wii to PS360.

wii u isn't on par with last gen

But it is much closer to last gen than it is to next gen.



joesampson said:
twilight_link said:

A Confederacy of Dunces, exact image of this CoD and GTA driven industry, retards and fools are THE mainstream.

 

This Nintendo bashing is nothing new it was invented at the dawn of the 5th generation (SNES vs. Genesis), its was an instant success co-invented by 3rd parties and Sega of America, paradoxically the first victim was Sega itself.


You're seriously gonna rip on GTA? Now you're just trolling fool. 


GTA is certainly far superrior game than anything CoD related, but this was not reason for why GTA succeeded, it was mainly sociological change, the success of CoD is only consequence of this.

 

It is an ongoing process.



Well most gaming journalists aren't journalists at all.

They're just young elitists with little taste and no family.