A joke is a joke.

The butt of a joke is the subject of a joke.

They don't though. We can't use Black Ops 2, AC3 and other popuolar core franchises as an expected sell because they never sold on Nintendo platforms, those were unknowns. We now know that they just have no considerable market on Nintendo consoles. Lesson learned.

As for 1st party games, NSMB shouldn't have been expected to support Wii-level sales all by itself. Nintendoland was a mistake on Nintendo's part, it would never sell standalone, especially not with a 300$ console. Comparing that to Wii, which bundled Wii Sports and was priced at 200$, we were wrong to think that Japan's non-bundling of Wii Sports warranted a 300$ U with standalone Nintendoland.

It's now quite clear that Nintendo home consoles sell at a 200$ pricepoint and that NSMB doesn't sell consoles by itself. So, with all that said, a wave of 1st party titles that cater to the extended needs to be released, as well as with a 100$ pricecut sometime within the year. To add to the presumptous nature of their stance, the U released 2 years earlier than the Wii in relation to its competition. So in the context of a debate as to who will sell how much and who is relevant and who isn't, this kind of factor is paramount. Instead we were given poor arguments like "It'll only sell due to 1st party games", which Carl and I already showed that the Wii was largely successful due to Wii Play and Wii Sports, and thanks to its pricepoint, and that 3rd party games only fill in the gaps.

From what I have read lately, Microsoft is actually the worst of the three right now.

http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/tales-from-the-trenches-how-microsoft-is-losing-the-battle-for-indie-develo

A Confederacy of Dunces, exact image of this CoD and GTA driven industry, retards and fools are THE mainstream.

This Nintendo bashing is nothing new it was invented at the dawn of the 5th generation (SNES vs. Genesis), its was an instant success co-invented by 3rd parties and Sega of America, paradoxically the first victim was Sega itself.

Exactly. There is the problem. People buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games and 3rd party games suffer as a result. For those wondering why Wii U isn't going to get amaizng 3rd party support, theres your reason.

Basically, anyone who says they can predict the future is lying.
Without knowing the price point, Internet requirements, and used game status of the new Sony and Microsoft systems, saying they will dominate is foolish
And given the sales shares, prices, and increased development costs, who knows what will happen to the industry.

But looking at that trio, you have Pachter who admits he does not get Nintendo you have Jeff G who gave low-score reviews to Zelda, and you have the editor of a magazine which would not even cover the Wii faily when its own surveys showed it to be owned by more readers than the PS3. So these people are not objective,

Well I'd laugh too in that situation. They were talking about 3rd parties and Wii U is not getting supported. They aren't dooming the console but instead getting a good chuckle out of Nintendo's empty promise.

I wrote a post on my site on this matter and had several sony fanboys riding my nuts. Pathetic that people really want nintendo to fail.

I'm just waiting for this FPS bubble to topple on itself.

In my oppinion that is not getting happen anytime soon. The mainstream eats that shit up for breakfast and developers will keep making them because they will make money.