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Answer the damn question!

Yes, it's fair. 49 49.00%
 
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NintendoPie on 09 May 2012
Millenium said:



Sounds a bit like brain control too be honest... even perfection gets boring at some point. Trust me, I know. *smugface*

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Millenium on 09 May 2012
NintendoPie said:
Millenium said:



Sounds a bit like brain control too be honest... even perfection gets boring at some point. Trust me, I know. *smugface*

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The art of mindfucking



Jay520 on 09 May 2012

Basil, Logic suggests that there can be no positive without the negative. There is no way around that.



NintendoPie on 09 May 2012
Millenium said:
NintendoPie said:

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The art of mindfucking

 NinPie = MindF'ed.



Jay520 on 09 May 2012
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
Basil, Logic suggests that there can be no positive without the negative. There is no way around that.


In this world yes, but logic doesnt apply in other worlds (but who knows, I sure dont, but I believe that).



Now, Heaven is illogical? I don't like the idea in a world without logic. Too crazy. I'd rather be dead.

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Burning Typhoon on 09 May 2012
Jicale said:
God can see past, present and the FUTURE. God gave us free will. We can make our own choices. Problem is to see into the future would mean we are only following a set path and we dont really make our own choices. You see if we use free will that would mean god wouldnt be able to see what choice we make , taking away his ability to see into the future. So it comes down to do we have free will and god cant see into the future or are we following as set path so god can?

Your first two sentences are a contradiction. 

And, reading the rest of what you said...  you see that it is too..  Anyway, I've always looked at it from a movie perspective.  You know what's going on in the moment, and what happened in the past, but, you don't know how the movie will end unless someone told you, or you'd seen it before, but, regardless, unless it's being recorded live, the entire movie has been scripted, and finished.  You're just..  In the middle.

Another way to look at it..  There are so many variables in life interacting, it would be inconcievable for a person to be able to take each one of them, and tell you how they would interact...  Maybe in a controlled envoirnment...

However, just because things are pre-determined, doesn't mean it's without purpose.  It just means that, on another *level* you've already decided how you want your life to be, and the idea was to live life forgetting you had the power to have such a great effect on it in the first place.  So, the more you believe you've got free will, in a sense, the better..  That's the whole point.

I'm probably starting to say too much... I'll stop now.  If you want to find the answer, search for something that doesn't break the laws of possibility.  Until the time comes, this is all else I will say on the matter.

I'll say that, Millenium is right about perfection being boring, that's also another point to things happening on another level, and forgetting... Now, I'm really going to shut up now, before you people make me say too much... 



Jay520 on 09 May 2012
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
Basil, Logic suggests that there can be no positive without the negative. There is no way around that.


In this world yes, but logic doesnt apply in other worlds (but who knows, I sure dont, but I believe that).


Now, Heaven is illogical? I don't like the idea in a world without logic. Too crazy. I'd rather be dead.


I think I will end my post here with this

But how did you come to the conclusion on that is how Heaven is like? What if its not the way you think it is? What if its something much more bigger, so big that the human mind probably cannot calculate how it actually would be like?



I base my impressions of heaven off of the bible. What else? It said that heaven is all good. Like a paradise. I won't like that. You should be asking yourself why you believe what you believe about Heaven. How do you know that Heaven is illogical? And really big? Do you have any reasons for that? Or are you just hoping and guessing?

NintendoPie on 09 May 2012
Jay520 said:



I base my impressions of heaven off of the bible. What else? It said that heaven is all good. Like a paradise. I won't like that. You should be asking yourself why you believe what you believe about Heaven. How do you know that Heaven is illogical? And really big? Do you have any reasons for that? Or are you just hoping and guessing?

Anything any Christian tells you you'll disregard. It doesn't matter what we say.



Jay520 on 09 May 2012
Burning Typhoon said:

However, just because things are pre-determined, doesn't mean it's without purpose.  It just means that, on another *level* you've already decided how you want your life to be, and the idea was to live life forgetting you had the power to have such a great effect on it in the first place.  So, the more you believe you've got free will, in a sense, the better..  That's the whole point.

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We've already decided how we want our lives to be? So our decisions are already made before we make them? That's deep, but still proves we have no free will. At least not in the present. We may have had it in the past when we've decided our lives.

KeptoKnight on 09 May 2012
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
BasilZero said:
Jay520 said:
Basil, Logic suggests that there can be no positive without the negative. There is no way around that.


In this world yes, but logic doesnt apply in other worlds (but who knows, I sure dont, but I believe that).


Now, Heaven is illogical? I don't like the idea in a world without logic. Too crazy. I'd rather be dead.


I think I will end my post here with this

But how did you come to the conclusion on that is how Heaven is like? What if its not the way you think it is? What if its something much more bigger, so big that the human mind probably cannot calculate how it actually would be like?


I base my impressions of heaven off of the bible. What else? It said that heaven is all good. Like a paradise. I won't like that. You should be asking yourself why you believe what you believe about Heaven. How do you know that Heaven is illogical? And really big? Do you have any reasons for that? Or are you just hoping and guessing?

Its called Personal faith, its just something I believe in personally, I doubt anyone else in the world will agree with me and if there are people who would agree with me, it would probably be so small I could probably count the number of people with my fingers. (Probably said it wrong , hope you understood what I meant in the end xD).

p.s. I'm not only going by what the Bible saids about Heaven, that is just one of many examples which isnt really concrete to begin with of how Heaven is like. To me I think heaven is whatever you want it to be at least that is what I can come up with since I am living in this world. Imagination runs wild in this world ;)

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