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zuvuyeay said:
the card hand was the classic dumbing down of well everything,with the guy explaining it like we are all complete idiots,

at least we could ogle eva


Vesper Lynd is one of my all-time favorite Bond fims. Beautiful, intelligent, and a really deep character. But yeah, the card hand was ridiculous. The probability of each player getting such rare hands would have to be one in several billion at best.



 

 

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MontanaHatchet said:
zuvuyeay said:
the card hand was the classic dumbing down of well everything,with the guy explaining it like we are all complete idiots,

at least we could ogle eva


Vesper Lynd is one of my all-time favorite Bond fims. Beautiful, intelligent, and a really deep character. But yeah, the card hand was ridiculous. The probability of each player getting such rare hands would have to be one in several billion at best.


i agree,she was absolutely stunning,i do have a litle crush on her,

i mentioned earlier about that line where she asks if women are disposable pleasures or meaningful pursuits,infact that whole scene on the train where they dissect each others character is pretty delicious stuff



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amp316 said:

I'll explain the hand as if it actually happened (even if it wasn't very likely).

If I remember correctly, the board (cards that are shown on the table) had four spades, a pair (which make three of a kind or even a full house probable), a possible straight draw, and even a possible straight flush draw.  The guy with the ace high flush definitely would have not went all in if he new how to play cards, since it would not have looked good at all with that board.  The guy with the lower full house would have tested the waters (not immediately went all in) by betting.  Le Chiffre would have probably raised which would have tipped off that he had the higher full house or even the straight flush.  Bond would have then probably went all in showing everyone that the  had a straight flush and everyone would have folded.  Le Chiffre beeing shown as a mathematical genius earlier in the movie leads me to believe that he would have figured out that Bond had the straight flush or was the world's biggest bullshitter.  He would not have been so overconfident about his hand and probably folded knowing that over 100 million dollars was at stake for him.  The problem with a straight flush is that when anyone sees the possibility of one, they play very cautiously or get out of the hand.  The straight flush is the best hand in poker, but it doesn't normally win you much money.     

I would have though it was cooler if only Bond and Le Chiffre were left playing and Bond got a straight flush to win.  The odds would have been even less and Le Chiffre would have been likelly to take the gamble.  That's what I think anyways. 

I do still love the new Casino Royale though, but as they say - that's another thread.

Ahh ok, I get you now.

I don't think that the players would be as cautious as that, they all had extremely strong hands, and the two guys that were left only had err...a "small" amount of money left. The first guy should have tested the water, the second guy still had a very good hand though. Their reckless betting was a bit unrealistic, but they weren't really the main focus of that scene, they had to go all in otherwise they would have folded when Le Chiffre and Bond started betting like mad men.

The showdown between Bond and Le Chiffre, I thought was perfect. Bond had been reckless before when he had to buy himself back in, Le Chiffre either thought he was bluffing or was confident he had the better hand. Bond could only win with a full house by having the last Ace and 8 in the pack or with a straight flush, both of which Le Chiffre knew were very unlikely (you can see it when he checks his cards and laughs).

The new Casino Royale movie would be a very good review.



For some reason my mind adopts a scottish accent when i read your posts... Anyway, great review. I've only seen the film once and it was a couple of years ago, so im not too familiar with it, but i remember not being too engaged by it, (probably because its so old) so i agree with your score. I'm more familiar with Dr No, so im looking forward to that one!



It might have been flawed but at least it wasn't all under water!



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