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Rath said:

Usually the answers actually boil down to yes/no or I don't know / No answer. You're grouping two answers together. I also guarantee you that the questions "Do you think glasses will hinder...?" and "Are you ok with the glasses?" would get different sets of results.

Basically a negative for one is not the same as a positive for another.

Aww fuck, you're right!!!





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Max King of the Wild said:
Killiana1a said:
Boutros said:

Nintendo is not in the TV business.

Nintendo does not need to be in the TV business to affect the TV business.

The 3DS is what economists call a "disruptive technology" meaning it is a technology that affects their competitor's other areas of business such as Sony's multi-thousand dollar 3D television.

Come 2011, when Sony is pushing 3D games on the Move to get consumers to buy their 3D televisions, consumers will see a $200-300 3D glass free technology via Nintendo 3DS and start to ask why is Sony asking me to drop $3k or more for a 3D television requiring and extra $100-200 for 3D glasses when my son/daughter has a 3D handheld that does not require and expensive television and glasses?

This is the pickle Sony will be in and it is a hard one considering all the R&D, production and marketing costs they have accumulated to create their 3D televisions.

I dont think you know what you are talking about...


That's your best response? Just admit you don't have a response then. If that poste really doesn't know what that poster is discussing, give that poster the actual information.



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greenmedic88 said:

Comparing the Nintendo 3DS with 3D HDTVs in general is an apples and oranges argument.

It's basically arguing whether those who would pay for a 3D experience would rather watch it in their living rooms on a 40" display like a regular TV, or a sub 4" screen in their hands.

Glasses or no, the portable experience does not replace the living room experience. As much as I was impressed with the 3DS, I feel it was pretty pointless for Nintendo to even make the comparison. It's like saying why watch Avatar in 3D in an IMAX theater when you can watch it on a 3.5" screen instead (no glasses!!!).

As for these wish/claims that Nintendo can or will show the world how glasses free 3D is done in the living room; you can stop. As it's already been mentioned, Nintendo doesn't make TVs. They don't even make the 3D displays that make the 3DS possible.


again, most people won't know this, most people are not tech savvy, they will see it happening on Nitnendo's 3DS at a fraction of the cost, and wonder why their bigh TV can't do the same thing



Max King of the Wild said:
Killiana1a said:
Boutros said:

Nintendo is not in the TV business.

Nintendo does not need to be in the TV business to affect the TV business.

The 3DS is what economists call a "disruptive technology" meaning it is a technology that affects their competitor's other areas of business such as Sony's multi-thousand dollar 3D television.

Come 2011, when Sony is pushing 3D games on the Move to get consumers to buy their 3D televisions, consumers will see a $200-300 3D glass free technology via Nintendo 3DS and start to ask why is Sony asking me to drop $3k or more for a 3D television requiring and extra $100-200 for 3D glasses when my son/daughter has a 3D handheld that does not require and expensive television and glasses?

This is the pickle Sony will be in and it is a hard one considering all the R&D, production and marketing costs they have accumulated to create their 3D televisions.

I dont think you know what you are talking about...


Actually, he knows more about it than you do



There's a difference, kind of. 3D for Sony is probably more important with the TV side of things. Maybe not. 3D on a 4 year old console is what it is. It's just an additional feature that is not mandatory and obviously relies on having other equipment.

For Nintendo, we are talking about basically a new hand held console release. Personally, I think that in the "3D space" Nintendo and Sony are not directly competing.



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Homeroids said:

There's a difference, kind of. 3D for Sony is probably more important with the TV side of things. Maybe not. 3D on a 4 year old console is what it is. It's just an additional feature that is not mandatory and obviously relies on having other equipment.

For Nintendo, we are talking about basically a new hand held console release. Personally, I think that in the "3D space" Nintendo and Sony are not directly competing.


Oh they are, why do you think Nintendo is slamming glasses



Boutros said:
cAPSLOCK said:
Boutros said:
axt113 said:

The price will go down fast just like everything else tech-related.


Price isn't the only issue here: those glasses are locked to manufacturer and people do not like them. Eyestrain and headaches also play a role.  They're not just going to have to go down in price and go down fast. 

Most consumers are not tech whores, you're not going to negotiate with them on this -- they hate the glasses and that's that.  

As far as the price going down, being that they're locked to manufacturer (stating this again because its HUGE) any social event would have to cost a lot, plus kids will break them. They're not going to have to go from $200-$150 all the way down to the low low price of $100 or even $50. They're going to have to be something to the tune of $10. 

This is an issue of consumer demands.  It may be hard for gamers to grasp because even if our xbox 360 shits the bed every 2 months or our playstation costs $600 with no games we'll still be playing them and buying them. By and large as a community we're crackwhores who take any level of abuse it means shiny fun box makes us happy.  By our nature we're fascinated with this stuff to the tune of $1000 a year. 99% of the consumers out there are not like that. Most of them JUST bought a HDTV within the last 2 years even though they've been on the market for something like 10.  Getting your average consumer to jump on the bandwagon just isn't going to happen. 

The tech just isn't there yet. It's too expensive and too clunky. 

Besides, I'd be happy about the total lack of 3d adoption and the disappointing sales.  What that means is companies have to go back to the drawing board because they're FORCED to actually come up with a workable solution.  At the very, very least glasses that are no manufacturer specific. 



I still don't get the point of a 3D TV. If a "3D" image is really just a blurry image polarized differently in each eye, why does it take a special TV to create that image? Doesn't it just depend on the TV station or disc content?



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cAPSLOCK said:
Boutros said:
cAPSLOCK said:
Boutros said:
axt113 said:

The price will go down fast just like everything else tech-related.


Price isn't the only issue here: those glasses are locked to manufacturer and people do not like them. Eyestrain and headaches also play a role.  They're not just going to have to go down in price and go down fast. 

Most consumers are not tech whores, you're not going to negotiate with them on this -- they hate the glasses and that's that.  

As far as the price going down, being that they're locked to manufacturer (stating this again because its HUGE) any social event would have to cost a lot, plus kids will break them. They're not going to have to go from $200-$150 all the way down to the low low price of $100 or even $50. They're going to have to be something to the tune of $10. 

This is an issue of consumer demands.  It may be hard for gamers to grasp because even if our xbox 360 shits the bed every 2 months or our playstation costs $600 with no games we'll still be playing them and buying them. By and large as a community we're crackwhores who take any level of abuse it means shiny fun box makes us happy.  By our nature we're fascinated with this stuff to the tune of $1000 a year. 99% of the consumers out there are not like that. Most of them JUST bought a HDTV within the last 2 years even though they've been on the market for something like 10.  Getting your average consumer to jump on the bandwagon just isn't going to happen. 

The tech just isn't there yet. It's too expensive and too clunky. 

Besides, I'd be happy about the total lack of 3d adoption and the disappointing sales.  What that means is companies have to go back to the drawing board because they're FORCED to actually come up with a workable solution.  At the very, very least glasses that are no manufacturer specific. 


And that's why the 3DS looks crappy from a tech point (lesser 3D and small screen), but its low cost (as the system is not going to cost as much as a 3D HDTV) and no glasses are great from a mainstream standpoint.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I strongly believe that these glasses 3DTVs will not be on the market in 3 years. Tech will allow for glasses free experience.



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