LMAO are you serious? The 360 has sold over 30 million consoles and i don't know how you can come off saying MS has tons of unsuccessful businesses. You do know who Microsoft is right?

I think he meant Zune (should be an Ipod killer) Windows mobile (should be the standard cell phone OS) and Bing (should be the new google).

Microsoft can afford to keep tons of unsuccessful businesses going indefinitely. Unlike Sony or Nintendo.

Thankfully, 360's not even that. Its the only HD console with even a prayer of hitting overall profitability and it has more desirable 3rd party support than about anyone. Not too shabby really.

Sure. All it takes is for somone to say. We are making a new system. BANG! Wii 2. Heck its how we got the Gamecube

I think Nintendo will end up winning the next gen. They just know how to innovate and make money, and they've been doing it for decades. MS will come in second with the XBox 720 (if that's what they decide to call it). I think Sony will replace a PS4, but that will be their last console. Hopefully, Apple will enter the industry, and if they do, I think they'll end up pushing Sony and, in the long run, Microsoft out.

But then again, I may just be talking out of my ass.

Just some random though about 360 and PS3 hardware. In both case the processors were mainly designed base on the IBM PowerPC chips. Sounds a bell anyone? Yep it's the same architecture that once equipped the Mac. So we are all playing on Mac! Sort of...

The biggest change will come from better GPU and both NVIDIA and AMD are working hard on better integration between the GPU and the CPU. It's next big thing.

IMO, their CPU are sub-optimal in both cases, with Cell being a bit weaker in brute force, but better designed for video game (vectorization mainly) so it even out. Then on the GPU side, PS3 is weaker, with half the memory and slower clock than the ATI card equipping the XBOX 360. On a technological side, the PS3 is more advance and represent a better integration. The 360 is like a traditional PC.

All they have to do is package Wiiwaa with they system and they'll win for sure.

Power PC Cpus in Consoles is nothing new. We have a IBM CPU in the Wii and in the GameCube. Xbox360 is not a standard computer Xbox was a PC but the Xbox360 is a 100% pure gaming console designed for videogames. If the 360 is like a traditional PC then the PS3 is one too. Because they are more similar to each other then to a PC. They have both a PC graphics card slightly changed they have both a Power PC Cpu the Xbox360 has 3 PPC Cores the PS3 just One but 6 SPEs. The PS3 has also GDDR3  RAM and XDRAM Xbox has just GDDR3 Ram. But they are definetly not a PC they are a console the Xbox has 10 mb Edram is this usual for PCs ? It has not a X86 Core. the first Xbox had one. They just took a PC and put it in to a console housing but the 360 was designed from scratch. 

Ok the video card from the Xbox can use the full 512 MB But it cant because the CPU needs the Ram too. Both systems have 512 Mb Ram. The Cpu of the PS3 isnt designed for gaming BUT it has the SPEs and you can make everything with them its hard to achieve but it take work of the VideoCard because it is able to handle Graphics Computing aso the SPEs can be used for everything. In conclusion the Xbox360 ha a clever designed system which is easier to use then the PS3. The delevlopers can use the potential from the 360 a lot easier then the potential from the PS3. But the PS3 has a highe potential. And you can see that in the exclusives. If the developes take the time and try to use all of advantages of the PS3 the result can be great.

Uncharted 2 is the FIRST game that actually uses the SPEs all the time. No other game uses them all the time. In Uncharted 1 the SPEs where IDLE 70% of the time. But they said recently that they didnt even optimized the code. They just made sure that the SPEs are busy all the time. And they could make games with even better graphics.

Its a Disadvantage if the Hardware is too complex to use all the power that wont happen again this philosophy is ken Kutaragis Philospophy and he is gone. Sony asks the programmer what they could improve or what CPUs they want.

The PS3 GPU is weaker then the Xbox360 GPU but the Cell makes up for it you can see that that the exclusives have still better graphics.

There is a rumor that first Sony wanted to use 2 Cells instead of Cell plus Nvidia GPU but it would be even harder to programm and more expensive so they decided to use a PC GPU.

The PS3 is able to handle better graphics. The Cell is a CPU/GPU. Thats why we have some exclusives which look significantly better on PS3.

And aslong as I havent seen a game on Xbox360 (in its fifth year) that has better graphics then Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 this is pretty much proven for me.

 And at the time the Xbox360 released its CPU was not suboptimal it is a beauty and was cutting edge at the time a Triple Core CPU with a lot of power. The 360 is a really clever design thats why it is hard for the PS3 to really show its power because the 360 is not as far away as it should be.

I do think the PS4 will be the last of the next gen to be released, but not for lack of trying on Sony's part. They rested on their laurels for too long after the PS3's release, overconfident that their ten-year plan would give them plenty of time to develop a successor. I don't doubt they're working on one now after the PS3's dismal performance, but they're playing catch-up: Microsoft and Nintendo have been working on successors since very soon after the releases of the 360 and Wii.

That's just how the industry works: release one console, start the next. Sony ignored this at its their own peril, and it's going to burn them. Either they'll release well after Microsoft's and Nintendo's next consoles or they'll released a rushed system, and they might even release a late system that's still rushed.

In any case, the ten-year plan is a failure. Sony will not be skipping a generation. The only real question is when they'll get into it.