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scat398 said:
Well I don't see Sony being in a financial positon to release a new console until atleast 2014. Both ms and nintendo can pretty much release one whenever they want to but I think 2012 seems like the logical launch time. I'm still not sure if will even see a ps4, I could see Sony selling off the brand as part of their restructuring plan


well i dont see you being in any position to talk about sonys financial situation. i really hate when people bring that up and act like they know everything



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^^^ Sorry solid but I can give an opinion on Sony's finacial situation. I invest in the video game industry and I study their finacials. My comment wasn't ment to be insulting it was just ment as a possible option, and it's an unlikely option.



scat398 said:
^^^ Sorry solid but I can give an opinion on Sony's finacial situation. I invest in the video game industry and I study their finacials. My comment wasn't ment to be insulting it was just ment as a possible option, and it's an unlikely option.

Can you tell me whether or not the XBox360 has made any money?  Is the entire project out of the red yet?  How about recouping Microsoft's investment on the original XBox?  I know that the XBox360 is making Microsoft money, but has it been profitable yet?  Microsoft lost close to 6 billion on the original XBox and lost another billion on RROD.  So I'm asking, has the XBox360 made 7 billion in profit yet?  Why would Microsoft be in a position to launch their console whenever they want, if they haven't recouped their losses yet?  If I were an investor, I'd be pretty pissed if Microsoft launched another console, before the XBox360 recouped it's initial investment, as well as making up at least some of the loss that the original XBox incurred.



dolemit3 said:
 If PS4 will be backward compatible, the PS3 will be dropped by Sony like a boat anchor.

The Playstation wasn't dropped when the PS2 came out, it was manufactured well into the 2000's. If Sony keeps their promise the PS3 will be supported until 2016.

I have no idea when the next Xbox will be released, but I have to think the PS3 and Wii successors will come out in 2012 or 2013 at the latest.



coolestguyever said:
dolemit3 said:
 If PS4 will be backward compatible, the PS3 will be dropped by Sony like a boat anchor.

The Playstation wasn't dropped when the PS2 came out, it was manufactured well into the 2000's. If Sony keeps their promise the PS3 will be supported until 2016.

I have no idea when the next Xbox will be released, but I have to think the PS3 and Wii successors will come out in 2012 or 2013 at the latest.


The PS1 was discountinued in the year 2006 infact it lived a lot longer then 10 years. It was 12. And the PS2 (just released in Brasil) will live a lot longer then the PS1. I guess maybe 14-15 years and the PS3 will pass atleast 10 years.



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The next PS will focus on 3D gaming

The next Xbox will focus on Natal


I think in the next run, Wii and Xbox will compete over casual gamers with Natal vs. Wii controls, and the PS will be on it's own catering to techies or gamers or people who care for high end stuff.



I'm not sure there will be a next Xbox if the 360 continues to be deeply outsold worldwide every week.

MS already has tons of unsuccessful businesses, and gaming was never their core business.

I guess it will depend on Natal sales.



mario64 said:
I'm not sure there will be a next Xbox if the 360 continues to be deeply outsold worldwide every week.

MS already has tons of unsuccessful businesses, and gaming was never their core business.

I guess it will depend on Natal sales.

lol, no.  Microsoft won't exit the business for strategic reasons alone, and unlike Sony they could actually afford to flush $5B every half decade f that's what it took.  Thankfully, this gen they haven't even needed to eat those sorts of losses.

360's improved on Xbox massively, and has pretty much cemented itself as the "base" platform for development in the industry.  Microsoft's not going anywhere...



beast024 said:

Who thinks that when the wii 2 and xbox 720 come out the ps4 won't be released? I mean the hardware in wii was outdated when it was released and the hardware for the 360 is starting to ge old. The ps3 was way ahead of it's time when it was released. It already has blu ray and a cell processor. It's the most powerful of all current gen systems by a long shot. I am thinking that when the new systems are released that the ps4 won't be released after about 2 years after those consoles. The ps3 is already capable of 3d gaming, motion controlls, and bluray. Not to mention the 6 axis in the controllers. The ps3 also has so much more petential to have better graphics as no game has ever used the full power of the ps3. Who else thinks this way?

If Sony doesn't release a new Playstation in the same time frame as the other next gen consoles then it could possibly end up in a worse position than this gen. 

At this stage both the 360 and PS3 hardware are beginning to show their age and to say the PS3 is more powerful by a long shot is not supported by most developers who have worked on both systems.  I'm not quite sure what the Sixaxis has done/is going to do for Sony's popularity but it's moot as any system can use motion controls.  The questions is whether they have a good install base and are well implemented and well supported by the development community in the form of quality software.

Your entire post seems based around the assertion that the PS3 has significantly more graphical potential than the other consoles but regardless it's output is still likely to look outdated compared with any hardware released in the next few years.  As has been pointed out already, hardware longevity has historically been related to popularity rather than processing power and I am yet to see anything this generation that makes me think this trend will change.

Having said all that I do think this generation could last a little longer than people are expecting and I don't think any of the hardware manufacturers will have a particular problem with that.



Ms next console depends on Natal's success



 

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