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Moongoddess is back!? Then this thread is totally worth it!



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^^ awww thanks. After reading a few pages back... don't worry about Wessle. If his personality here isn't just some internet ego that doesn't reflect his true self, then I can imagine his disappearance can be chalked up to dissociative fugue. The boys got issues.



[2:08:58 am] Moongoddess256: being asian makes you naturally good at ddr
[2:09:22 am] gnizmo: its a weird genetic thing
[2:09:30 am] gnizmo: goes back to hunting giant crabs in feudal Japan

Life is short and depressing.
People who have made it to a ripe old age have undergone thousands of risks.

Living in a non-risk fashion is boring.
Let the kid do acid. It is the least risky drug of all. He just needs to remember to be safe and not do anything like operate machinery, drive, and stuff life that.
He needs to understand these things and nobody is going to stop him anyway.


People need to learn their own lessons, they don't need anyone's opinions about it.



theprof00 said:
Life is short and depressing.
People who have made it to a ripe old age have undergone thousands of risks.

Living in a non-risk fashion is boring.
Let the kid do acid. It is the least risky drug of all. He just needs to remember to be safe and not do anything like operate machinery, drive, and stuff life that.
He needs to understand these things and nobody is going to stop him anyway.


People need to learn their own lessons, they don't need anyone's opinions about it.

Listen

Insistence on learning your own lessons is how people win Darwin awards



Life isn't for everyone. Though I hope everyone can live as long as they can, some people are predisposed to dying. There is no helping it.

Without mistakes, there is no learning.



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All I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with learning from the mistakes of other people.



Well, you can't do that without empathy. You can't really empathize unless you have a connection with someone. You can't really have a connection with someone without being around them a lot.

Surrounding yourself with people who make mistakes, is just as risky as doing a drug on your own, and probably a lot worse, because where you might think you are too buzzed to drive, your friend might not, with you in the car.

Without empathy, those mistakes are attributable to idiocy. "If I was in that situation, that wouldn't have happened".

Sure reading darwin awards is great. Watching history channel, stuff about war, dangerous settings or friends, is decent exposure. Doing a drug is not that bad. Half the country's youth is on speed anyway.

Now, persistent drug use is bad. I will be the first to say that. I do not like people who do drugs. But I do like people who have the guts to experiment with them. There are far too many friends of mine who are losing their future because all they do is smoke weed and drift. But, that also comes from personal experience too.



"Well, you can't do that without empathy."

Horse dookie.

I'm the son of a farmer, I've worked around heavy machinery all my life. We would use diesel engines connected to our irrigation pipes in order to pump the water, which naturally involved the use of enormous steel axles - and when they got going, these things would spin at hundreds and hundreds of RPMs. I think we usually ran them at 1100, but I can't remember exactly.

When I was younger I was in the habit of wearing T-shirts out into the field - sensible enough, since work was always hot, but I was very skinny (almost emaciated to be honest) and my clothes tended to hang off me. To this end my father would not let me near the axles of these machines unless the power was shut off.

"Why not, Dad?" I asked him.

"Because that axle will catch the ends of your clothes and kill you - horribly - right in front of me."

Now, I don't know if that was true, specifically - he was applying the rule of "don't wear baggy clothes around heavy machinery" in a situation where it may not have been entirely appropriate - but I took that to heart and never went near the damn thing unless I had tucked in my shirt and tightened my belt so I knew it wouldn't come loose.

I had no reason to believe him, particularly: he'd never seen it happen to another person, leastways not on one of these axles. I'd certainly never seen it. Empathy never entered into the equation.

I just didn't want to die!

That, to me, seems like it would come before empathy.



That was empathy. Empathy is just the ability to feel what someone is feeling.
His fear was transferred upon you.

I've always had very strong empathy. When my dad told me stuff like that, instead of thinking "I don't want to die", I would always picture it happening to me, but I would be looking at it through his eyes rather than mine.

However, you knew that the machine was dangerous. Instinctively, you knew. You just didn't know that a loose t-shirt would increase the danger. People don't realize that drugs are dangerous. There is something inherently different between the two situations. Being hit by a hundred ton machine at high speeds is going to be a lot like getting punched except a lot harder. Doing a drug is...like what? Nobody I've known has ever said, "Hey, getting pucnhed in the face is so cool! It's like this indesribable feeling of tingling and sharpness"



"His fear was transferred upon you."

I would argue that this was just me, and my inherent sense of self-preservation. Most people have that! I certainly wasn't thinking of how it would hurt him, save in some small part: it was more that I didn't like the idea of having my limbs broken or being choked to death with my own shirt (since the collar of a shirt is always the last thing to tear, don't you know). I understand what you are saying, but that isn't my experience.

"People don't realize that drugs are dangerous. There is something inherently different between the two situations."

This I will accept: I'm pretty sure everyone's classmates in high school went through a phase where they all did that chest compression thing to bring on a head rush.