By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Why Project Natal Will Be Better Than Both Sony and Nintendo's Ideas

letsdance on 10 October 2009

Now... what if the battle is to the right of me... How do I get there? I assume the logical explination would be turn right and start walking that way... but now I'm not facing the tv... so now I turn left to face the tv to battle... but now I'm not facing the battle and am getting shot to death... but it's okay because I can take one step and be 200 feet away. Phew that was close. Oh... and a living room is like 14x12 feet. I'd say that a couch against the wall and the TV/entertainment center would take up a good amount of that 14 feet. So 10 feet is generous. Now... the other 12 feet? If the map was a square 1k by 1k than that means you only have 6 feet to move left and right. So one step there would be over 200 feet!

Only way a shooter would work is on rails. And you stand in one place... I mean. You wouldnt even be able to set up props... unless the cover you just left magically appears in front of you.



Around the Network
ironman on 10 October 2009
vlad321 said:
ironman said:
vlad321 said:
ironman said:

It's a nifty little thing called scaling. instead of using the space of a football field, you can use a portion of your living room, just enter the width and lenth and it will scale down the playing area. Also, No buttons opens up the realm of possibilities, indtead of pushing a button one could say a command or perform a simple predefined gesture... Once again, do you honestly think MS hasn't thought of this?

So I move a milimeter and I'm on the otherside of the map? Also I'll be yelling "SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT DUCK" and hope my hair turns long and blonde in the mean time? And yes, I honestly don't think MS has thought of this. It sounds to me like they made an amazing inerface design for windows and just tried to tack it on the Xbox.

But please, go on ahead and use your voice commands and stuff, that should make using a mousse and a keyboard for shooters infinitely faster and more professional then.

Ah yes, the old "oops, I didn't see you said the word 'could' in there." And the only reason you would be out of the map if you move a MM would be because you set your playing area to a rediculously small space.

You don't get it.... Scaling WILL not work. In the game the maps ar several hundred steps in one direction, your living room is probably less than 10. You ake half a step and you are 1/5th of the map away.... that is all messed up.

 

As I said, as innovative and cool the iPhone is, it won't be cooking my breakfast any time soon, hell I can't even use it as a spatula.

I fail to see how cooking breakfast with an Iphone is relevant to this conversation. And like I said, do you honestly think MS hasn't thought of this? It's one of the bigger issues, to not address it would be to kill Natal. At this point, all you can do is speculate, however, some people seem to somehow magically know exactly how Natal will be, they seem to know exactly what it's shortcomings are...can I ask you one question, where is your Delorian, and how were you able to get it up to 88mph?



Past Avatar picture!!!

Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

letsdance on 10 October 2009
ironman said:
vlad321 said:
ironman said:
vlad321 said:
ironman said:

It's a nifty little thing called scaling. instead of using the space of a football field, you can use a portion of your living room, just enter the width and lenth and it will scale down the playing area. Also, No buttons opens up the realm of possibilities, indtead of pushing a button one could say a command or perform a simple predefined gesture... Once again, do you honestly think MS hasn't thought of this?

So I move a milimeter and I'm on the otherside of the map? Also I'll be yelling "SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT DUCK" and hope my hair turns long and blonde in the mean time? And yes, I honestly don't think MS has thought of this. It sounds to me like they made an amazing inerface design for windows and just tried to tack it on the Xbox.

But please, go on ahead and use your voice commands and stuff, that should make using a mousse and a keyboard for shooters infinitely faster and more professional then.

Ah yes, the old "oops, I didn't see you said the word 'could' in there." And the only reason you would be out of the map if you move a MM would be because you set your playing area to a rediculously small space.

You don't get it.... Scaling WILL not work. In the game the maps ar several hundred steps in one direction, your living room is probably less than 10. You ake half a step and you are 1/5th of the map away.... that is all messed up.

 

As I said, as innovative and cool the iPhone is, it won't be cooking my breakfast any time soon, hell I can't even use it as a spatula.

I fail to see how cooking breakfast with an Iphone is relevant to this conversation. And like I said, do you honestly think MS hasn't thought of this? It's one of the bigger issues, to not address it would be to kill Natal. At this point, all you can do is speculate, however, some people seem to somehow magically know exactly how Natal will be, they seem to know exactly what it's shortcomings are...can I ask you one question, where is your Delorian, and how were you able to get it up to 88mph?


He's saying the iPhone doesn't do things it's not capable of doing. Comparing it to the NATAL... it was an analogy.

ironman on 10 October 2009

Ah, well then, fail...unless he has that Delorian I was talking about in my previous post!



Past Avatar picture!!!

Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

zarx on 10 October 2009

 

this is the company that is behind Natal



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

Around the Network
Metallicube on 10 October 2009
lanjiaona said:

When Nintendo first shown to the world, back in 2005, what their ideas of what gaming should be about, everyone in the world pointed and laughed in their faces. Claims that it would be "gimmicky" and that it was quickly dismissed by many gamers. However, fast forward a little bit and gamers, as well as developers, finally saw the potential of the strange little device.

Yet, even with people now warming up to the Wii remote, developers, gamers and publishers were uneasy by the trend Nintendo had suddenly taken. Of course, being rival companies, both Sony and Microsoft bashed Nintendo for their radical change in prospective. They were all like "we have better graphics so people will hate your console" (they were very child-like about it in my opinion), yet I'm sure that both companies knew Nintendo were on to something.

The Wii was finally released, and then the potential was finally realised, and Nintendo were rolling in the cash. Sony and Microsoft both wanted in.

Fast forward about 3 years and E3 2009 took place. Rumours had been flying around about the two other companies about the direction they would take in terms of gaming, and out of the two, Microsoft shocked crowds more than Sony did with their little stick.

Project Natal was finally announced and, to be quite honest, made the world stop and listen. The new premise was something new and exciting. It may of started out looking like Sony's Eye Toy, but it soon became apparent that it was so much more.

Microsoft demoed the new device using various tech demos, and it shown gamers a brand new dimension of gaming. The idea of the Wii remote to help immerse yourself in the game by doing the actions on screen in real -life, but Microsoft went even further: they made YOU part of the game.

To help break down why I believe (remember, this is my opinion) Project Natal will be better than the competitions, I've split it into 2 sections: "Project Natal Vs. The Wii Remote" and "Project Natal Vs. The PlayStation Motion Controller".

Yes, I know all three are very different in what they do and how they change the way that we play games, but I still think that Natal will better them all.

 

http://baxy-z.com/site_content.php?subaction=showfull&id=1255131517&archive=&start_from=&ucat=16&

Wow, that's a pretty bold statement considering there hasn't been a single GAME announced for it yet. In my personal opinion, Natal will be a massive flop. MS is more hype and marketing than they are substance...



ironman on 10 October 2009
zarx said:

 

this is the company that is behind Natal

Yes, and that was the Vista version. They cleaned up their act with Windows 7 (MS's appology for creating something as horrendous as vista was?) The Win 7 VR software is actually very nice. and that is what the VR in Natal is going to be based on.



Past Avatar picture!!!

Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

letsdance on 10 October 2009

My question. Wouldn't it pick up the sounds of the game?



ironman on 10 October 2009

Yes, but the VR recognition software is second to few on this thing (modeled after win7 VR software) so I suspect that wouldn't be a problem.



Past Avatar picture!!!

Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

zarx on 10 October 2009

yes they have some experience with voice recognition but add full body motion tracking and the game running on the 360s hardware and ambient noise 3-4 people moving around with baggy clothing and you may have some issues



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!