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shams said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
A good point was raised: How is it that someone as overtly biased and uninformed as Shams got to be a moderator?

Biased? No - just realistic. I give credit where its due, and won't hesitate to bag a company out when they deserve it (including Ninty). Sony aren't exactly flying now.

Uninformed?? I'll ignore that one.... for now.

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I have mentioned this many, many times in the past - and will do so one more time...

I never asked to be a mod. The only reason I am a mod, is so that I can post news items. I'll rarely ban someone, and will always try to err on the side of caution (re: banning).

So don't expect me to temper my views or opinions just because my name appears in red. This is the friggin Internet for heavens sake - if you can't post opinions here, there isn't much point to be using it.

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BTW - I have been coding games for 22 years, have worked at 4(5?) game studios, have been producer/lead coder/lead designer on various published titles (including console/handheld/PC titles) - and have even opened/run/closed a studio of my own.

What have you done?

 

 

 


 Amen.  I have heard the shams bias thrown around a couple times lately and I find it completely unfounded. You provide news with insight. Certainly not biased and always well informed.  And seeing your credentials it is easy to understand why.

As always, props to the mods for their hard work. 



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Just because a moderator has an opinion doesn't mean he's going to treat members unfairly. I see so much whining on this board about the biased moderators, but I never see any examples of members being treated unfairly. Unless you can find examples of that, quit whining about the bias on here. Christ, just because you moderate the forums doesn't mean you're not allowed to have an opinion.



With the $399 40 gig, I wonder if it'll still have wi-fi and memory slot. I think it'll do well if the 5 blurays are still included along with Spidey 3. would be nice if a new list of blurays was available to include spidey 1 and 2 (in separate choice categories ofcourse). :D



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SlorgNet I noted nothing of the sort. I noted that the HD-DVD format will be affordable this holiday season in that some of them are retailing now for less then two hundred dollars in the form of the Microsoft HD-DVD player and in stand alone players you can find a number of models for less then $300. Given these numbers its a safe bet the prices will be well below $200 by this holiday season. Having shopped extensively I have found no Blu Ray players below $450. That is a sizable difference wouldn't you say. One costs two times more then the other.

The technical differences are neither drastic, or in any real sense demonstrable. Studios rarely make ample use of the format space they have now, and there is no rational reason for them to do so. Few movies come with ample bonus material. Nor do companies see fit to jam as much material into a single disc as they can. I site the example of double sided discs it is easy enough to place nine television episodes on to a single DVD. However you purchase most series in four episode increments on a single disc, and when you buy compilations it is the same you just get three or four discs. This is damn near universal with few exceptions. Extra space simply put does not get used.

I highly recommend you spend some time comparing the products as if you were going to make the purchase. To me and most of the world for that matter $200 is a large sum of money. With that money I could buy a lot of other things that will enhance my entertainment experience. I just think your woefully ignorant about the prices of these things.






I would like to watch a whole season of Battle Star Galactica on on disc.
TV shows should be used to push HD-Discs.
I would love to see a complete seasons on one disc.



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I think the fact that the PS3 is a blu ray player is slightly underestimated as a factor here...every single PS3 can play blu rays, and the projection for the PS3s lifetime sales is what, 30-40 million, on the generous side? That means 30 million blue ray players in homes and a blu ray player on the market that retails for 200 dollars or less that also plays PS3 games by generations end...I don't care how well the HD DVD attachment for the 360 sells, it's never going to get 100 percent attachment rates. HD might not be on a lot of people's minds right now, but everybody who buys a PS3 can switch over whenever they get an HDTV and pop in high definition disk.



                                   

Alot of people trying to convince themselves that luxury disc formats will in any way take off in the next five years. Pity really. DVD was a utalitarian progression from VHS, it made watching movies better, easier and more convenient. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray only give you a better picture, that's all. An improvement of a factor that is by and largeconsidered a luxury is hardly a driving force to push a new format to success especially when HD-TVs still only have less than 10% of the market.

Let's take a look at some of our major media formats shall we... 

 

CDs made listening to music more convenient because you could switch through songs, didn't need to rewind or fast forward and didn't have to worry about the degredation of the media over the course of time. This was a great improvement over the casset and benefited the ease by which the consumer could enjoy audio media immensely.

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- Mini-Discs basically just did the same thing CDs did only with a twist, they really didn't bring anything new to the fray outside of recordability and ultimately were too much of a niche and luxury item to really take off as their own format in the long run.

- DVD-A Like Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are to DVD, DVD-A is the quintisential upgrade of quality in the CD format using a DVD disc instead of a CD disc for music. However, this new format requires a new player severely limiting the appeal of a media where digital media reigns supreme and audio quality has never been a real issue for the consumer..

- SACD (Super Audio CD) Like Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are to DVD, SACD is the quintisential upgrade of quality in the CD format. However, SACD has one promising aspect for its future. It can be played on regular CD players only requiring SACD compatible players to unlock its true potential. It's only downfall is the lack of interest in a new HD Audio format at this time given the heavy dependence on digital media and stricter disc protection this new format would bring.

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DVDs made watching movies more convenient because you could switch through chapters, didn't need to rewind or fast forward, could have multiple languages and interactive options and didn't have to worry about the degredation of the media over the course of time.

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- UMD basically just did what DVD did, just with less space, a higher cost and less appicability. Its novelty as a portable DVD format was largely compromised by much cheaper portable DVD players already on the market and the lack of interest to drive what was essentially a luxury item.

- Blu-Ray basically just allows for High Definition DVD movies, it has far more space but utilizing this space without compromising read times raises a series of new problems whose solutions ultimately make the utility of such a format questionable as a step forward in regard to consumer convenience. Incidentally its one major advantage being limited to HD-TVs makes it even more of a luxury item and a questionable step forward after only a few years since DVD had become the market standard.

- HD-DVD basically is in the same boat as Blu-Ray with minor variances towards their specs and abilities, in the end both are limited in that their only advantage, an HD-quality image, which can only be exploited on HD-TVs making them luxury items with no real utalitarian benefit to the consumer.

- Red-Ray Like Blu-Ray, buch cheap, affordable and economical. This format's only dissadvantage is its late emergence into the fray and limited appeal of HD formats at this time given their dependence on HD-TVs. However if any format has a chance of succeeding DVD this one seems to have everything necessary to win over the consumer who is looking for the next economical and sensable leap. 



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ChichiriMuyo said:
A good point was raised: How is it that someone as overtly biased and uninformed as Shams got to be a moderator?

I raised that question a while back and right now he does seem to be quite "anti-Sony" with his bashing of the PS3 and Blu-Ray.   Right now his argument has been laughable.    I will admit though that once he takes off his Nintendo colored glasses he can be quite good.  But so far in this thread it's been a Sony bash fest by him.



 


Get your Portable ID!

 

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jjseth said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
A good point was raised: How is it that someone as overtly biased and uninformed as Shams got to be a moderator?

I raised that question a while back and right now he does seem to be quite "anti-Sony" with his bashing of the PS3 and Blu-Ray. Right now his argument has been laughable. I will admit though that once he takes off his Nintendo colored glasses he can be quite good. But so far in this thread it's been a Sony bash fest by him.


I still don't see why constructing logical arguments for or against any particular platform is inappropriate behavior for a moderator, or any member for that matter.



jjseth said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
A good point was raised: How is it that someone as overtly biased and uninformed as Shams got to be a moderator?

I raised that question a while back and right now he does seem to be quite "anti-Sony" with his bashing of the PS3 and Blu-Ray.   Right now his argument has been laughable.    I will admit though that once he takes off his Nintendo colored glasses he can be quite good.  But so far in this thread it's been a Sony bash fest by him.


There's a difference between being biased and calling it like you see it, and Shams is usually the latter.

Just because you don't like what he has to say doesn't make him wrong. Keep on keepin' on with that ostrich syndrome.

Oh, and before you rip me, I own a PS3. That doesn't mean I can't call it out for its faults, just like I do my 360 and I did my Wii (before I sold it). 




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