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RolStoppable said:
The Sony PR once again does a great job... at making people laugh. Can't say the same about Jerry Seinfeld.

 

Seinfeld is a genius.  Hold your tongue.



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outlawauron said:
Onimusha12 said:
outlawauron said:
Onimusha12 said:
False Confidense is all Sony, or any company heavily involved in HD-gaming, has. It's p.r. bravado simple as that, a carefully orchestrated facade to be maintained at all times to keep the consumer from realizing the bottom is falling out from underneath the Video Game Industry for just about everyone but Nintendo.

Who wants to buy a product from a company that admits they're fucked? It's Sony's manufactured confidence that allows the consumer the fleeting illussion that they're not going anywhere and that the PS3 isn't the trainwreck that it is infact is trying to recover from.

Of course as you can in this thead, such bravado offers renewed strength to all the Sony faithfuls whose vocabularies now consist of such Tretton approved phrases as, "Future Proof, You're paying for potential, Sony doesn't buy exclusives they earn them..." But more importantly such announcements create the illusion of viable video game console alternative in the market to the non-comittal potential consumers.

Of course now that the PS3 is starting to lose to the 360 again on weekly basis, expect a shitstorm of "Is the PS3 supply constrained?", "When will the PS3 make its next big comeback?", "The PS4 will set things right!" and "ZOMFG the next big Sony exclusive!" threads using Sony's P.R. bravado as their backbone. When things are at their worst that's perhaps when its the most important for Sony to feign confidence.

Well, good thing the PS3 is in a better position this year than last!

 

 This is true and its very good for Sony that things have improved as much as they have. However, at least for the Sony fandom, response to negative news is something that is contextualized by the immediate circumstances, not the long term progress of a product. It doesn't matter that Sony is doing far better than most could have hoped for last year, the fact that they've fallen beneath the 360 again after having reached such a comfortable assurance of second place is enough to send many into a panic... And not missing a beat Sony knows to counteract any set back their products face.

 

Eh, the WW race is not set. 360 isn't outdoing week end and week out.

Doesn't mean people still won't freak out at the slightest setback.

 



MikeB said:

Just sounds over confident and IMO a very not likely scenario, as much more so than as Microsoft's very unlikely future outlook for the 360.

*fixed

 



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
TheBigFatJ said:
Sony's MO is "make outrageous and vague promises, don't worry about delivering."

 

Microsoft's is "make shit that breaks, charge more for the full experience, and spew FUD about Sony promising but not delivering."

Seriously, do Steinberg's comments about big games ahead and the hardware being a little more future-proof than competitors' strike you as "outrageous and vague promises"?  Bullshit.

 

Note the underlined. They are the same thing.

I am defending neither Microsoft nor Sony.



Legend11 said:
MikeB said:

Just sounds confident and IMO a very likely scenario, much more so than Microsoft's very unlikely future outlook for the 360.


Yeah the future for the 360 is very grim indeed...

 http://www.gamedevresearch.com/2008-state-of-game-development-survey.htm

"- Of the surveyed console developers, which represent a notable cross-section of the entire industry, 73% are creating games for Xbox 360, 58% (including some of the same respondents) for the PlayStation 3, and 42% for the Wii - with 15% still creating games for the PlayStation 2. This implies that the greatest amount of Western console developers by sheer numbers are creating games for Microsoft's console - but due to team size differences, this doesn't necessarily imply that more games will appear on the Xbox 360 than other consoles."

um...but following from that article, does this not the show that the Wii at 42% has grimmer outlook than all three?

somehow i can't agree with that

 



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What a jackass. "a tougher road now then even in 2008."

They had one game in 2008 so far, worth a crap, that was exclusive.

Sony needs to get their act together and start delivering on all of these promises, instead of making new ones.

Sounds like an interview with Crazzyman. Is this even real?

Post a link.

Also, good luck on achieving these goals, PS3. If you can actually do it, instead of pretending that you can, then I might be playing your console one day. Forgive me if I have doubts about your boasts. In the recent past, they've proven to be outright lies and spin.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

the guy's right PS3 is gonna kick butt



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jman8 said:
Jesus.... READ THIS:

SCEA’s VP of product marketing Scott Steinberg

Again, VP of product MARKETING.

It's his freakin job to hype up his product. Stop personifying Sony CORPORATION as if it was a living breathing human being like you and me. This is what corporations do. Sony can't be "cocky" b/c Sony isn't a person. Stop paying attention to what the MARKETING guy says and focus on what products (i.e. games and features) that Sony is producing. That's all that really matters. Judge Sony based on that. [/rant]

 

+1 Insightful



Spankey said:
Legend11 said:
MikeB said:

Just sounds confident and IMO a very likely scenario, much more so than Microsoft's very unlikely future outlook for the 360.


Yeah the future for the 360 is very grim indeed...

 http://www.gamedevresearch.com/2008-state-of-game-development-survey.htm

"- Of the surveyed console developers, which represent a notable cross-section of the entire industry, 73% are creating games for Xbox 360, 58% (including some of the same respondents) for the PlayStation 3, and 42% for the Wii - with 15% still creating games for the PlayStation 2. This implies that the greatest amount of Western console developers by sheer numbers are creating games for Microsoft's console - but due to team size differences, this doesn't necessarily imply that more games will appear on the Xbox 360 than other consoles."

um...but following from that article, does this not the show that the Wii at 42% has grimmer outlook than all three?

somehow i can't agree with that

 

Well that is what the last sentence is talking about...  Wii games on average have smaller team sizes than 360 games but PS3 team sizes on average are likely the same as on 360 or possibly even larger.

 



Morgyn said:
jman8 said:
Jesus.... READ THIS:

SCEA’s VP of product marketing Scott Steinberg

Again, VP of product MARKETING.

It's his freakin job to hype up his product. Stop personifying Sony CORPORATION as if it was a living breathing human being like you and me. This is what corporations do. Sony can't be "cocky" b/c Sony isn't a person. Stop paying attention to what the MARKETING guy says and focus on what products (i.e. games and features) that Sony is producing. That's all that really matters. Judge Sony based on that. [/rant]

 

+1 Insightful

 

There's one very real thing called corporate culture and it tends to permeate employees of corporations. While Sony (or Microsoft, or Dell or whatever) are just trademarked words, the guys making the decisions tend to eventually become affected by the corporate environment up to a certain point it starts to influence their decision-making process. It's similar to the way military forces tend to build certain types of behaviours. There are tons of books written on the subject.





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