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ckmlb on 12 July 2007
nintendo_fanboy said:
Erik Aston said:
Anyways... Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Smash and Kart in the first 18 months of Wii. Pokemon and Zelda on DS in the same time period... Those games represent Nintendo's core, and they aren't being watered down... So... Shut up.

That's it.

Konichiwa, I understand your feelings, but as long as Nintendo keeps releasing those games, you really can't complain. I also agree with you that Zelda was easy, but did that hurt the experience? I for myself had a lot of fun playing it, and I doubt you can honestly say you hadn't.


No you can complain. You know why? You need more good games from nintendo. You always want new franchises. Come on isn't this true? Don't you want Kid Icarus or something?

If Sony just kept making sequels to their games instead of making new interesting games, I would be pretty fuckin's pissed.

Nintendo is great because they were able to adapt Zelda, Metroid and Mario to 3d and made them even better than before while usually companies' 2D games become disastrous in 3D (Mortal Kombat, Sonic). 

You seriously don't want new franchises? Some new thing, like Pikmin and Batallion Wars last generation or 3D Metroid?

Hell I want a console sequel to Starfox really badly. 



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ckmlb on 12 July 2007
nintendo_fanboy said:
well but konnichiwa, NOBODY announced new games at E3! Please tell me a game that has been announced only at E3 and we didn't know about before. I don't think there are more than five worth mentioning, one of them is Mario Kart.

 

This was the fault of Nintendo and Microsoft that they didn't talk about 08, Sony you know their 2008 lineup already: Killzone, MGS, FF XIII, GT 5 and Wipeout.

 



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HappySqurriel on 12 July 2007
ckmlb said:

So if this year's lineup for Nintendo Core games is Metroid, Mario and Brawl, what is next year's?

Mario Kart and Disaster? Seems like a big fall off in big hitters to me. 

 

 


For 2007 Nintendo will release (or will have released):

  1. Super Paper Mario
  2. Batallion Wars 2
  3. Metroid Prime 3
  4. Fire Emblem
  5. Super Mario Galaxy
  6. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  7. Mario Strikers Charged
  8. Pokemon Battle Revolution

Certainly it may not be the biggest list of 'core' games but it works out (on average) to a core first party game every 6 weeks; this is about as quickly as Nintendo has ever released games and if they released them any faster it would hurt third party releases.

What will they release next year?
Who knows, maybe a Donkey Kong game, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, Zelda, Earthbound or one of the countless other Nintendo core games ...



Shido on 12 July 2007
FishyJoe said:
Shido said:
Nintendo is only following money, as long as money rules the world, we,gamers will only be seen as way to get money.

And Microsoft and Sony, or any other business for that matter are not in it for the money?


I think they are very far behind it(in the VG world)



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Rath on 12 July 2007
akuma587 said:
Why do Nintendo fans have such a hard time admitting that Nintendo does anything wrong? I will admit that the PS3 was overpriced for awhile, and may still be. I'll admit there has been a dearth of games recently, and the PS3 has yet to live up to its potential. I'll admit some of the execs made some big mistakes (especially Ken Kutaragi). So why is it so hard for you guys to do the same.

Face it, Nintendo sees less money coming from typical gamers and the loyal Nintendo fanbase and would rather court casuals who would rather play something like WiiFit than Metroid Prime: 3. Why do you think Shiggy and Reggie were both out there pushing the thing. I really saw it as a bad sign when Shiggy came out to talk about WiiFit rather than a "real" game.

 I know Nintendo often does stuff wrong, I'd go so far that they have a habit of screwing up hugely. The catridged in the N64 is a prime example as well as the entire GC generation and half the games they released. But I dont think they have screwed up so far this generation.



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nintendo_fanboy on 12 July 2007

of course I want new franchises ckmlb, but I would also be happy if Nintendo would only make sequels, there are so much great franchises that this would give a great library on its own.

but i'm pretty sure that we will see new hardcore franchises. I don't think that Nintendo bought Monolith because of their benefits in producing non-games for example.



Currently Playing: Skies of Arcadia Legends (GC), Dragon Quest IV (DS)

Last Game beaten: The Rub Rabbits(DS)

akuma587 on 12 July 2007
nintendo_fanboy said:
well but konnichiwa, NOBODY announced new games at E3! Please tell me a game that has been announced only at E3 and we didn't know about before. I don't think there are more than five worth mentioning, one of them is Mario Kart.

I can think of three off the top of my head.

 WiiFit

Infamous

echochrome

I think I missed another PSN title too.

 Mario Kart doesn't really count since everyone knew it was coming.



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johnsobas on 12 July 2007

So back in the SNES days we were playing zelda, mario, metroid, and now we are playing zelda, mario, and metroid. I don't really see the difference, they are making both kinds of games. Can someone tell me which hardcore franchises they are abandoning in this quest to only make casual games?

It's the same franchises we played on GC, n64, and before that with a few new ones. People weren't whining back then.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

nintendo_fanboy on 12 July 2007
ckmlb said:
nintendo_fanboy said:
well but konnichiwa, NOBODY announced new games at E3! Please tell me a game that has been announced only at E3 and we didn't know about before. I don't think there are more than five worth mentioning, one of them is Mario Kart.

 

This was the fault of Nintendo and Microsoft that they didn't talk about 08, Sony you know their 2008 lineup already: Killzone, MGS, FF XIII, GT 5 and Wipeout.

 


But my point was that I knew about those games already before E3. And I think you should leave third party games out, they are an entirely different story. This leaves Killzone, GT 5 and Wipeout on your list.



Currently Playing: Skies of Arcadia Legends (GC), Dragon Quest IV (DS)

Last Game beaten: The Rub Rabbits(DS)

pobladofx on 12 July 2007

"We could talk all day about what makes Super Mario Galaxy a must-have title for Wii, and come review time (or future hands-on) I'm sure we will, but in reality it's about one major thing: Super Mario Galaxy is fun. When we're finished playing it, we think about playing it again. While we explore the world we're half playing, half admiring the level design and gameplay concepts. Nintendo may be reaching out to casual players and basing its new system on things like Wii Sports and Wii Fit, but the fact of the matter is that the company is still all about the gamer, and all about the games, and Super Mario Galaxy is pure living proof of that. This is the Mario you've been waiting for."


http://wii.ign.com/articles/803/803958p2.html