Forums - Sales Discussion - The Ps3 Just Died but not because of FF13

NeoRatt said:
cwbys21 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, for digital to be the next big thing, you need lots and lots of broad band everywhere, not just the big cities. It is NOT feasible to stream regular movies, let alone high def movies if you don't live in a city of a couple million. which is 99% of america, canada, mexico, and most of europe. and then what happens when it finally does catch on in 2050? the isps will throttle traffic because they don't have the bandwidth to do it, hell, they complain about not having the bandwidth for the next 5 years because of the growth of video streaming from things like youtube and the growth of online games.

I disagree.  Broadband has become continually cheaper per byte sent since the late 80's...  Also, over 75% of the population in North America lives in large cities where broadband is readily available.  Add to that, the availability of low cost satellite or high speed cellular access within the next 5-10 years and the accessibility will be there for everyone.

Think outside the box.  These companies wouldn't invest in something they didn't think was going to become common place.  Their shareholders would not allow it.

 

like the Sony shareholders wouldn't allow them to sell a console at a $200+ loss and the Microsoft shareholders wouldn't allow them to lose $5.5 billion with the xbox brand?  Broad band is readily available in big cities, like the 2 megabit (megabit, not megabyte) connection that I have in a decently sized city?  Which is the only thing that is reasonably priced and is based off of cell phone tech.  It isn't nearly fast enough to stream movies, let alone short videos from game trailers or something.  To get internet even close to fast enough I have to pay $60 a month for a shared cable line.  so if someone on my block also has it and is streaming a movie, we are both screwed.  These companies aren't willing to make the big investments to upgrade internet enough to make it viable to stream any kind of movies.  Maybe Microsoft has been spending to much time on the east coast where there is a big enough population where these companies would get their investment back by upgrading their lines, because I sure know that they aren't doing it out west where I live.



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Diomedes1976 said:
Br numbers have increased by 500% year over year and keep growing each month.Thats how a format starts to make itself ,not some Netflix download.

 

 there have been fewer BR movies purchased than BR players, so the attach rate is < 1 on br players so far

500% of nothing is still nothing



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Fastrabbit09 said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Br numbers have increased by 500% year over year and keep growing each month.Thats how a format starts to make itself ,not some Netflix download.

 

 there have been fewer BR movies purchased than BR players, so the attach rate is < 1 on br players so far

500% of nothing is still nothing

 

You're going to have to learn to ignore several posters like Diomedes1979 ... They enjoy posting big numbers which lack context and perspective in order to 'Hype' the PS3.

The 500% improvement was caused by the growth of the userbase of the PS3, and Blu-Ray killing HD-DVD, but the format probably (still) doesn't account for more than 5% of total DVD sales (although they will probably follow this up with Blu-Ray's percentage on brand-new movies and ignore the fact that a lot of older movies are sold, and many people buy most of their DVDs from bargain bins).



There is nothing stopping Sony from signing with Netflix if they want to go that way. Have you ever used Netflix's service on the PC (it sucks).



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Hey, lets come back to this thread when the 360 wins a week WW this year...



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cwbys21 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, for digital to be the next big thing, you need lots and lots of broad band everywhere, not just the big cities. It is NOT feasible to stream regular movies, let alone high def movies if you don't live in a city of a couple million. which is 99% of america, canada, mexico, and most of europe. and then what happens when it finally does catch on in 2050? the isps will throttle traffic because they don't have the bandwidth to do it, hell, they complain about not having the bandwidth for the next 5 years because of the growth of video streaming from things like youtube and the growth of online games.

 

It may not be feasible in the Us of A but mainland Europe and the Far East has been fully equipped with 8Mb/s broadband for a very very long time.

I dont know what holds the States back but I presume the large distances between cities means infrastructure isnt in place for remote communities.

This is dangerous for Sony. Microsoft are attacking them in their strongest territories.



Netfix is only A option on how to watch movies. But people who go online to stream movies rather do it for free on other sites where they can watch any and every movie including the latest releases ( as illegal as it may be).

There is nothing to say Sony wont be offering a similar streaming option in the future (considering they own film studios as well as Publishing rights for many films being one of the largest film distributors) and at least owners of a PS3 will have the option to stream as well as purchase high def movies.

Might not mean much, but just like you get people who are video game freaks, you actually get something called MOVIE BUFFS. These people rather have a hard copy of the film and guess what? Blu Ray is the definite format for the hard copies to be viewed and watched in all their glory.



Whoever said life to be like a box of chocolates clearly didn't know what he was talking about. 

Life is more like a game of bumper cars. At every turn there is a possibility you will get screwed.