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i agree with Bodhesatva because that was the point i was trying to make when i created this thread, having a million spare is to high and i think changes will be made soon when the npd figures come out, but i think the main issue is europe it seems more undertracked than the other regions because it had supposedly shipped a million there in day one



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If it is undertracked, it is because of America, which we will just have to confirm with NPD's reports in a couple of weeks.



PooperScooper said:

koffieboon - spectrum - the games you listed are 2 (Halo) - 4 (GTA) times bigger than MGS4... Can't you give an example of a game with the same calibur that applys to this situation?

and spectrum nice try with the " i though they would have shipped more" cheap shot.

 

Well, not that often we get shipment numbers of just released games so I don't have another example. But I think the given examples say a lot.

GTA IV sold less in its fifth week than MGS 4 in its second week and had 2.5M copies lying around compared to only 1M for MGS 4. At the current rate of sales it will take GTA IV another 10 weeks to sell the 11M copies, but since sales will only decrease it might actually take 15-20 weeks.

Microsoft announced 8.1M copies of Halo 3 shipped at the end of 2007, while this site only had 6.85M sellthrough at that moment. So months after its release there are still 1.25M copies lying around when the holiday sales are over. At the moment Halo 3 still hasn't sold through the total shipment from the end of 2007, although it is getting close.



There's really no way to tell if it is or not. If it is undertracked it is probably no more than 300k or so. I don't think it is overtracked based off the same reasoning off Bodhesatva.



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In reading this thread, I have seen a couple of people mention speak almost reverently of NPD.

Remember, they don't track Wal-Mart or Toys R Us. Thus, it very well could be that VGC is closer to reality and that it NPD is undertracking. (If you read Patcher's comments last month after Wii Fit's numbers, he hints at this).

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Can someone answer my previous post.Pretty please.=)



*bleu-ocelot* said:
Can someone answer my previous post.Pretty please.=)

Normally bundled games are included in the numbers at Vgchartz as far as I know.

 



ecurbj said:

lol...look at this:

And then read this: http://vgchartz.com/methodology.php

 

Hmm, where have I seen this before?



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I really can't confirm it, but those numbers seems about right. It might be a bit undertracked in europe, but definitely not in japan and america. The game has sold 1.9 million copies in 2 weeks to a userbase of roughly 13.5 million, which is an amazing feat in itself, so i really don't think it's undertracked. And if it is, it's probably not undertracked by much.



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I think 1M in channel seems a bit low, but still plausible. You people should remember that this title is one of the biggest PS3 exclusives, has high profile and it's available boxed and bundled, which ups the number. This game should also be available in practically every store that sells games, unlike many other games.
So, MGS4 could be undertracked or overtracked, but at this point, i'd take VGC numbers as correct as they can be at this point. Besides, historically VGC has been really close in big titles.



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