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It's usually the anti-Nintendo people bringing up price all the time.

Most Nintendo fans have maintained price is not the primary factor for its success.



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Sqrl said:

^^
I don't think you have to spend that much for a high quality system, I just finished mine and I spent about $1750 for everything from a top of the line 1080p LCD, 7.1 THX certified sound system, 2 Tuner HD DVR box, entirely new cables, and one of the best universal remotes on the market that allows anyone and everyone to operate it with one-touch ease.

edit: nm, I thought you were saying $3500 for just the A/V setup. Also I double checked some prices, I was off by a fair bit, the audio system was less than I thought, I got it about a year ago.


 If you spend less than 2000$ for your entire system, your really not getting a whole lot. I'm not saying to go do a Kwaad, and wait till it comes out on BluRay, and watch it at home... cause it's better than the theater either.

But a "good" TV will cost you around 1500$, and then when you add the sound, your adding another 300-500$ (for a decent one.

 

And 7.1 is BS. It's a joke. It's a proven fact 7.1 is not noticeably better than a 5.1 The "9.1" that does not really exist, is just plain stupid.

Truthfully, a 4.1 is all you would ever need, but the 5th 'center' speaker is really nice, as it allows for a 'central' music from the front, without having to enlarge the other two, but truth-be-told, I really dont know why there isnt a 4.1

The only way I can warrent more than a 5.1, is if you put speakers above/below you. (wtf how would that work?) 



PSN ID: Kwaad


I fly this flag in victory!

All you have proven is that if you want lots of choices on how to play, then you need to pay more money...what is so novel about that?

if you want to pay for four people to play your wii then yes you do need to buy 3 more wii motes.

if you want to pay for four people to play your wii for a game that uses numchucks you have to buy 3 more. (not many of those anyways)

if you want to buy: 3 wheels, 3 dance pads, 4 classic controllers, 4 gamecube controllers... and so on...

yes it costs more if you want more... want more = pay more ...suprising...

last time i checked, it was nice to have options...



I have 25 Wii games and 0 PS3 or 360 games, damn that Wii is expensive!



Kwaad said:

With the Wii continuing to come out with new 'attachments' And requires so much to play as well, are things getting out of control?

 

For a 'party' Wii system. (what it's for right?)

We will need to buy...

1x Wii - 249.99
3x Wiimote - 39.99*3= 119.97
3x Nun-chuck - 19.99*3= 59.97

429.93

That is what a Wii system will run you today. As things are starting to progress, we are losing our ability to keep downloaded stuff on our Wii? We are out of space, with old classic games! The new Wii-Ware is pushing the data so far beyond the hardware, it's not funny. Soon, we will be faced with 2 choices. 1. Start downloading only what we are playing, and second... well, spend 50-100$ for a external HDD.

When you add in the base entry requirements, then add in the new 'HDD' that we will be needing...

We are looking at a painful number, very close to 500$ to get the system completely built.

Then there is the annoying trend, of games needing, special 'attachments' MK-Wii is a good example. If you wanna play 4-way, you will probibally want to pick up another 3, 9.99$ Wii-Wheel. Also, alot of games, you need, or will want the 'classic' controller. Which in the event of Smash, you would want 4... As the Wii-mote SUCKS on that game. So you add on, your 4 'classic' controllers, at 14.95!

We are quickly comming up on 600$ just for hardware.

On regards to the 360. Let's go with this one. It comes with your 20gb HDD, and the wireless controller. As let's use the 360 for the same situation, and play party games on it, to 'favor' the Wii in this, as the wii is meant for it, the 360, is more of a 'one person per console' online system.

1x X-Box 360 - 349.99
3x wireless controller - 39.99

Ok, and as far as the 360 goes, that's all I can think of needing... just about ever. And that comes to 469.96$.That's about 100$ cheaper, than the Wii!!!

How much more is the Wii gonna get that is 'necessary' to play the games?! (I do not count Wii-fit, as it is specific for the one game, and it 'expands' the original concept of the machine, and is not 'useful' in anything but the one application.

*jumps in a swimming pool to hide from the rapidly approaching firestorm*


You're not very smart

Buy Wii Play - it's an awesome deal

$429 is nothing, we in Australia pay approx $380 US dollars for just the Wii and a single wiimote+nunchuk

I bought my Wii at release - and have found no need for any classic controllers

You don't even know what the Wii's storage solution will be, maybe it will wirelessly stream your data to your computer. Anyway, I don't care about you - I already have an external harddrive. Surely most people either have one, or a USB memory stick

I own mario kart, and will never pay for 3 extra Wii Wheels - I'm fine using a Wiimote + nunchuck, or the gamecube controllers i had lying around, or using a Wiimote on its side pretending its in a wii wheel.

 

Now, moving on to how cheap the 360 is

you forgot to buy any games, the Wii comes with Wii sports and Wii Play comes with a Wiimote

you also forgot to shell out $60 a year for xbox live gold member ship, enjoy not being able to play your games online

oh wait, i forgot, you were too stupid to buy games.

 

Well done, you have spent $469.96 on a paperweight

 

The real count is as follows

Wii - $249

Wii Play (I'm just guessing how much you pay for it) $299

2 Wii Motes $379

3 nunchuks $439

Total $439

 

To get the equivalent on a 360

Console + 3 extra controllers $470

2 Games $570

3 years of xbox live Gold membership $720

Total $720

 

You sure put Nintendo in their place

 



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I'm not sure Kwaad even has points anymore, I think he just likes to start an argument and rile up the Wii crowd. ;>



It'd be funny if he was joking..........but from what I've seen spoken on the forums about Kwaad, he's quite serious about this.



Kwaad said:
Sqrl said:

^^
I don't think you have to spend that much for a high quality system, I just finished mine and I spent about $1750 for everything from a top of the line 1080p LCD, 7.1 THX certified sound system, 2 Tuner HD DVR box, entirely new cables, and one of the best universal remotes on the market that allows anyone and everyone to operate it with one-touch ease.

edit: nm, I thought you were saying $3500 for just the A/V setup. Also I double checked some prices, I was off by a fair bit, the audio system was less than I thought, I got it about a year ago.


If you spend less than 2000$ for your entire system, your really not getting a whole lot. I'm not saying to go do a Kwaad, and wait till it comes out on BluRay, and watch it at home... cause it's better than the theater either.

But a "good" TV will cost you around 1500$, and then when you add the sound, your adding another 300-500$ (for a decent one.

 

And 7.1 is BS. It's a joke. It's a proven fact 7.1 is not noticeably better than a 5.1 The "9.1" that does not really exist, is just plain stupid.

Truthfully, a 4.1 is all you would ever need, but the 5th 'center' speaker is really nice, as it allows for a 'central' music from the front, without having to enlarge the other two, but truth-be-told, I really dont know why there isnt a 4.1

The only way I can warrent more than a 5.1, is if you put speakers above/below you. (wtf how would that work?)


Few things. First both the TV and the Sound system I own would cost you more than you're talking about ($2k) if you went into the store to buy them yourself. I live in Omaha, NE which is home to the largest single location furniture store in the world. Every year there is a stockholders sale for Berkshire Hathaway. To say we get good deals is an understatement, just for flashing the stockholder badge you get the first 25% off electronics and then the haggling starts. Although I prefer to haggle them down and then flash the badge.

With that said, you're completely wrong if you think price is the best way to determine how good your system is.

As for the rest of your post, I find it curious that you were unable to respond to my first post which showed why your OP was pointless and silly but now you're perfectly capable of attacking my audio system choice as if you know precisely what I purchased. Ironically I never said anywhere in my post "ZOMG 7.1 is teh bezt" and yet you lashed out like thats what I said. Truth be told I tend to agree that 7.1 isn't really that much different from 5.1 but we originally ordered the 5.1 and it arrived damaged so I had them upgrade us to 7.1 with the replacement. But please do feel free to continue your rant, I'm curious what else you've been able to divine about me and my purchases.  

PS - Don't you own a 40" Samsung LCD? I might have the model wrong but I could of swore you said you had a LN40A550.

PPS - I would still love to hear your response to the topic if you have one.



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Kwaad said:
Desroko said:
You don't need the Wheel to play MK, or the GC or Classic Controller to play Brawl.

You are exactly right there my friend...

But I have yet to meet a person who liked the game using the Wiimote on smash.

And MK-wii sucks without the Wheel.

 


 Well, then I'd say you haven't met many people who play Brawl.  I exclusively use the Wiimote+nunchuck for the game and am not alone.  This past weekend there was a Brawl tournament on my university's campus and fortunately for me I wasn't the only one.  I see little advantage to using the Gamecube controller for Brawl and the Wiimote+nunchuck makes up for it in comfort (I can rest my hands on my lap with them apart).

 As for Mario Kart Wii, while I agree the Wheel is the best way to play it isn't the only way and some prefer the Gamecube controller.

 To each his own, but I've never felt the need to bust out one of my Gamecube controllers or to purchase a classic controller. 



Kwaad said:
Sqrl said:

^^
I don't think you have to spend that much for a high quality system, I just finished mine and I spent about $1750 for everything from a top of the line 1080p LCD, 7.1 THX certified sound system, 2 Tuner HD DVR box, entirely new cables, and one of the best universal remotes on the market that allows anyone and everyone to operate it with one-touch ease.

edit: nm, I thought you were saying $3500 for just the A/V setup. Also I double checked some prices, I was off by a fair bit, the audio system was less than I thought, I got it about a year ago.


 If you spend less than 2000$ for your entire system, your really not getting a whole lot. I'm not saying to go do a Kwaad, and wait till it comes out on BluRay, and watch it at home... cause it's better than the theater either.

But a "good" TV will cost you around 1500$, and then when you add the sound, your adding another 300-500$ (for a decent one.

 

And 7.1 is BS. It's a joke. It's a proven fact 7.1 is not noticeably better than a 5.1 The "9.1" that does not really exist, is just plain stupid.

Truthfully, a 4.1 is all you would ever need, but the 5th 'center' speaker is really nice, as it allows for a 'central' music from the front, without having to enlarge the other two, but truth-be-told, I really dont know why there isnt a 4.1

The only way I can warrent more than a 5.1, is if you put speakers above/below you. (wtf how would that work?) 

If there is anything you've ever posted on this site that I could agree with it would be right here.  

 

As for 4.1, it sorta happened in the 70's with Quadraphonic Stereo.   It was 4.0.  The ".1" always refers to the subwoofer of which they didn't have in the ealy 70's.

 

 

 



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