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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Was the Switch Nintendo Shooting for the Fences or did They Know that it Would be a Huge Success Prior to Launch?

 

During the Development of the Switch:

Nintendo was in control t... 19 73.08%
 
Nintendo was not in contr... 7 26.92%
 
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I was fairly active on these boards following Ninty back in 2014-2017 and I remember the general feeling of hopelessness that existed in Nintendo's circles during this time.  The general consensus was that Nintendo got "lucky" with the Wii and "caught lightning in a bottle" with a gimmick but that Nintendo's home console market was still on an inevitable decline with every subsequent generation.  The Wii U clearly did not go as planned for Nintendo resulting in major cuts in yearly sales forecasts, damage to investor confidence as well as Iwata taking personal responsibility for the failure with a 50% pay cut, selling of the Mariners, etc.  Furthermore, it really looked like the dedicated handheld market was doomed with the smartphone gaming craze (in retrospect, this was more of a bubble, but this wasn't apparent at the time) and the 3DS sales really started to prematurely lose steam in 2015-2016 (a lot of people were predicting earlier on that it would get to 80M).  All of this gave credence to the narrative that the company was majorly on the ropes prior to the launch of the Switch and that there was no clear way for them to regain a strong foothold in their traditional console markets and that they need to go third party the way that Sega did.

My question is this: was Nintendo in control when they released the Switch and showing us what they are really capable of when they try hard or was this just a wild swing for the fences that resulted in a grand slam?  Was the Switch something that Nintendo carefully crafted and knew would likely go on to sell in excess of 100 Million units in its lifetime prior to release or was this a shot in the dark like the Dreamcast where it was the company's last ditch effort at the home console market with plans in mind to go third party while feigning confidence for investors?

When I first saw the reveal of the Switch I was really worried that it didn't have a gimmick or something that, in recent history, Nintendo needed for their platforms to sell well (Wii, DS, 3DS).  That said, the Switch ended up being the perfect device at the perfect time.  It's hard to get inside Nintendo's head about what they were thinking when they released this.  I mean, the concept was so polished and modern and is very different from any of their recent hardware releases that are awkward (but sometimes in that charming Nintendo kind of way that people like).  It was also impressively fast for a mobile device in 2017.  The last time Nintendo tried do something with cutting edge hardware was the Gamecube which just fell flat on its face in terms of presentation and appeal.  The Switch nailed both the hardware as well as the presentation in being a slick, attractive and modern piece of hardware that people actually enjoy carrying around.  The Switch really harkens back to the 80's when Nintendo was seen as being on the forefront of technology and mass appeal.  I just wonder if Nintendo really had confidence in themselves to be able to pull this off with the Switch.  It really has been much a more revolutionary and impressive piece of hardware than the Wii (a gimmick that really came off as luck) or the DS (Nintendo just better leveraging a market that they already had control over).  Was the Switch Nintendo getting off of their lazy butts for the first time in 30 years and showing us what they can do when they are serious, or was it them just desperately trying something radically different and striking paydirt in a revolutionary way?



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What? The title is insane.



LudicrousSpeed said:

What? The title is insane.

Does it make more sense now?



I think they knew , They obviously planned to retire the handheld crowd and bring it to Switch. How much did 3ds do? 80 million? the Switch was obviously gonna succeed since molding both Handheld and Console players as one crowd would bring in the money and players.



Cute and honest Sega Saturn fan, also noone should buy Sega grrrr, Sega for life.

Wii was a fluke
Wii/DS were gimmicks
Smartphones gonna kill HHs
Lazy Nintendo
Nintendo gonna go 3rd party

Wii wasn't a fluke, it was a carefully planned attempt to disrupt the gaming industry.
The "gimmickless" Switch has touchscreen/stylus, motion controllers and split controllers just like Wii/DS. Built-in 2P and the ability to play HH on TV/portability are gimmicks too.
The only thing that can kill Nintendo handhelds is a Nintendo hybrid.
Lazy Nintendo made WiiU games that went on to sell 20-40m+ when released on Switch. Their 1st party output is unparalleled.
Nintendo didn't go 3rd party, Sony and MS did.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane OP.



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Well, considering that during its development, most of the staff were walking around, using the phrase "For Iwata!" as motivation... I'd say they were swinging from their heels.



Pyro as Bill said:

Wii was a fluke
Wii/DS were gimmicks
Smartphones gonna kill HHs
Lazy Nintendo
Nintendo gonna go 3rd party

Wii wasn't a fluke, it was a carefully planned attempt to disrupt the gaming industry.
The "gimmickless" Switch has touchscreen/stylus, motion controllers and split controllers just like Wii/DS. Built-in 2P and the ability to play HH on TV/portability are gimmicks too.
The only thing that can kill Nintendo handhelds is a Nintendo hybrid.
Lazy Nintendo made WiiU games that went on to sell 20-40m+ when released on Switch. Their 1st party output is unparalleled.
Nintendo didn't go 3rd party, Sony and MS did.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane OP.

bolded , Microsoft and Sony did go 3rd party for PC was strange and Everybody was predicting Nintendo would go 3rd party before those 2 was funny , Nintendo pulled a reverse uno on every doubter this day.

Also , since the Wii U first party didn't have a normal animal crossing and no console Pokemon , and Monster hunter tri was a port on 3ds while capcom brought Monster Hunter Rise to Switch , the Big hitters actually did better than WII U versions except Breath of the WIld except that launched on dead console aka WII U , there was no Metroid on Wii U and many indie and 3rd parties came to the Switch. though AAA 3rd party not so much but It's more than Wii U AAA 3rd party , Shin Megami Tensie reviewed amazingly.



Cute and honest Sega Saturn fan, also noone should buy Sega grrrr, Sega for life.

Nobody can be absolutely sure about sales. Even Sony cannot be sure about sales even with their impressive past record. Nintendo should've been positive about combining HH and home consoles but I think they've even been shocked by the sales.



 


 

Considering Kimishima predicted it to sell about as well as the Wii I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing. That said they still were worried that it could bomb, since they said in 2017 they were "relieved" that it sold well.



Microsoft called Nintendo and laughed at them for how badly Wii U sold. Offered Nintendo money to buy them and Nintendo said ok fine but only if the NX sells worse than Wii U ok! Microsoft said DEAL! Knowing NX was going to be a Wii U-Mii! Nintendo was SHOCKED that the Switch didn't fail even tho they thought it would suck as well! Microsoft was so angry they said fuck your Mario Odyssey we got Super Lucky's Tale! Then Xbox One was poo so Microsoft bowed to Nintendo, begged to be forgiven and handed them Cuphead,Ori, Lucky's Tale! Then they became super good friends and like every WWE Royal Rumber they teamed up to take the Big Show out! BIG BAD SONY!


True story. What my uncle who works at Nintendo said after snorting coccaine.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!