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Well fellow Saints fans, it has been 6 and a half years since the last new Saints Row game, Gat Out of Hell, it has been a painfully long wait for fans of the series. The trailer for the new Saints Row game dropped earlier today:

Needless to say, the fans aren't happy with what we got after waiting this long. The official posting of the trailer has about 3 times as many dislikes as likes, and virtually every reposting to the trailer has more dislikes than likes. React channels are already making videos saying they hate it. The game is being slammed on social media.

Fans were expecting either a sequel to 4 focused on the time travel hinted at in 4, or a game set after Gat out of Hell's retcon ending, where Johnny Gat asked God to reset the Saints Row universe, and then a clip was shown with Johnny Gat, Matt Miller, and Kinzie Kensington working as cops. Instead, what we got is a total reboot, new setting, all new characters. Some might say, "ok that's not so bad, the game will surely still tonally feel like Saints Row, even if it is all new characters", but those people would be wrong. One honestly wouldn't even know this was a Saints Row game were it not for the title at the end, the prevalence of the color purple, and the fleur-de-lis on one of the character's lapels. The game's depiction of the Saints gang is drawing more comparisons to the DeadSec of Ubisoft's Watch Dogs franchise than it is to the Saints gang of the earlier games.

The earlier Saints Row games were clearly made for a fanbase of gen X and millennial gamers, the soundtracks were tailored to those age groups, the pop culture references were tailored to those age groups, the humor was tailored to those age groups. But this reboot? It honestly seems like they are trying to win a whole new demographic of gen z Fortnite players instead of catering to their existing fanbase of gen x and millennial gamers. It is a totally baffling decision by Volition. How could they watch the hate they got got Agents of Mayhem, watch it become a critical and sales flop, and then think this Saints reboot was a good idea? Surely they would have focus tested this idea before they spent several years and many millions of dollars making the game. It's like they want their parent company, the Embracer Group, to close their studio for releasing 2 flops in a row. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 26 August 2021

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Yeah, these main characters don't look very gang to me.



I've only played Saints Row 3, 4, and Gat, never played the first two games, but I really enjoyed co-oping them. They were fun and silly games you didn't have to take seriously. There is something off about the new one that makes it feel like a completely new IP. New characters can work and still feel like the same series. Look at GTA and how every entry is its own thing, but they still feel like GTA.



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I liked 3 a lot. No gameplay so not excited yet. Could be fun or shit like Agents



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

They truly missed the mark on this one. The fans of the more serious Saints Row 1 and 2 don't like it, the fans of the more comedy driven Saints Row 3 and 4 like myself don't like it. Why make a game and exclude your entire fanbase? How did this ever make it past the drawing board? Did they do no marketing research?

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Last edited by axumblade - on 27 August 2021

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I don't mind a completely new story and characters. But this just doesn't feel like Saints Row.



The main characters look like some stereotypical types that were made to fill some stupid checklist (like forced diversity), and don't feel like they are really part of a gang that's set to become the leaders of a city.

Goofy action seems almost there, but we'll have to wait and see what gameplay they can show us. I just hope the devs don't pull another bs deal with Epic though, because Saints in a fave series to me.

Also bring back Gat. If gat ain't in the story or is radically changed completely, then it isn't Saints Row.



shikamaru317 said:

The earlier Saints Row games were clearly made for a fanbase of gen X and millennial gamers, the soundtracks were tailored to those age groups, the pop culture references were tailored to those age groups, the humor was tailored to those age groups. But this reboot? It honestly seems like they are trying to win a whole new demographic of gen z Fortnite players instead of catering to their existing fanbase of gen x and millennial gamers. It is a totally baffling decision by Volition. How could they watch the hate they got got Agents of Mayhem, watch it become a critical and sales flop, and then think this Saints reboot was a good idea? Surely they would have focus tested this idea before they spent several years and many millions of dollars making the game. It's like they want their parent company, the Embracer Group, to close their studio for releasing 2 flops in a row. 

I have seen this as the go-to action for many companies for years now. It just means said company is creatively bankrupt, that they cannot tailor to who they once crafted for before. Remember Thundercats Roar?, and how the show's creator pissed on all the previous fans of the show?. I wouldn't at all be surprised if there are some folks at Volition that are ready to piss on fans over on Twitter, from critique of these new characters. 

Devs that have been around long enough should already know who their core fanbase is, their lifeblood. They shouldn't go around trying to pick up Fortnite gamers, who are known to drop shit so fast for the new bling. This seems like a totally stubborn decision on their part, but we'll have to wait and see what happens when we see Gameplay and how the story unfolds, but I'm not expecting any of it to be as memorable as the first 3 SR titles. 

Main issue for them though, is that if this is Volition going for a totally new age demographic, then the previous fans are just going to end up resenting them for it and moving onto other games instead, which means Volition has essentially lost part of their core fanbase and likely means of income. Look at what happened to WoW, tons are moving to FF14 because Blizz fucked shit up, so the same could happen to SR if they try to aim for a totally new audience, booting out the previous one. 



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Why even try to talk about the game based on a trailer. I really have no real clue about how the game is going to play or the fun aspect. I have to see and experience the story to see if the characters are the right fit. Right now, nothing really has been shone so forming an opinion is probably premature.