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So how long until E3 dissapears?

There won't be an E3 next year. 2 5.13%
 
One or two years down the line. 3 7.69%
 
Three to five years down the line. 6 15.38%
 
Six to ten years down the line. 7 17.95%
 
More than a decade down the line. 4 10.26%
 
E3 is fine and won't diss... 17 43.59%
 
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After this year's E3 event, it feels more and more obvious the format is in very serious decline. Even if we take out the corona effect on live shows, the fact that companies can use digital presentations and social media to show their titles whenever they want without having to deal with the serious expenses of live shows is something clearly eroding E3's usefulness. This year, Sony decided to just not bother showing up in favour of their own presentation sometime down the line, and some of the companies who did show up frankly had no reason to (I still don't get why T2 even bother with a presentation with zero games). This makes me think that, once companies become more comfortable with their Direct style presentations, they just won't bother with E3. So how long until E3 becomes unsustainable and just dissapears completely?



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E3 is not only for gaming, right? How are the other companies that attend it and what is the buzz they generate with their presence?



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Dont know, but it will be sad when it happens.



You do realise there is technology on the show floor for journalists to try out and report on? E3 will never die.



Mystro-Sama said:

You do realise there is technology on the show floor for journalists to try out and report on? E3 will never die.

I don't see how that changes things. Video game companies need no live show anymore (at least not one they don't fully control in their own terms), and being overshadowed by bigger games after all of the expenses of going there is not really an attractive prospect. Once videogame publishers and devs stop going there, will E3 be even profitable to organize? If I recall, they are the main show, most people who go there pay to see the games, not the hardware. And even if it stays profitable somehow, would E3 even be relevant for most people?



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I think it could get replaced with something like Summer Game Fest which gives publishers a more flexible schedule. But tbh I don't see E3 going away, worst case scenario it just becomes a watered-down version like the PAX conventions.



Mystro-Sama said:

You do realise there is technology on the show floor for journalists to try out and report on? E3 will never die.

Journalists and the media are at probably an all-time low in regards to the public trusting them due to mis-reportings, agendas, politics, staged things (like CNN faking a rescue of people from flood waters by hiring actors), etc. Journalism itself is dying as everything is becoming increasingly caught on camera and hot mics. You don't need to hire people to dig up dirt on something when that something is publically on display more and more as the years go by. Regarding gaming specifically, if a company can stream directly to you to deliver information on the products/services they have, then what use is the media? To make predictions? To tell you how you should feel about something? Those were useful when companies didn't directly communicate to consumers regularly or in convenient ways. But now all Phil Spencer has to do is get the programmers at MS to deliver push notifications to the billions of users on PC to let them know about a presentation they have in store. We'd all be better off without journalists since so very often they have an agenda in the modern era.



It's difficult to discount the Covid effect since planning for E3 apparently began later than it usually does. So companies would have less time to prepare their presentations.

When Sony first skipped E3, a common comment was that they did so because it was a transition year (to PS5) and that they had nothing to show.
Like I said back then, they've been through several transition years before, but never skipped. So I didn't think that was the major concern for them, but rather the reported disagreement between Sony and ESA, where Sony is one of the board members. Keeley also had his disagreements with ESA, and left.

I didn't expect Sony to come back, because even if ESA made some changes that would suit them, by the time they do that Sony will get a taste of how much money they can save by having their own presentation instead.

But unless other companies have similar problems with the direction of E3, they may stick around. Especially if the cost of attending E3 is lowered due to it no longer being the same live in-person event as before.

Dulfite said:
Mystro-Sama said:

You do realise there is technology on the show floor for journalists to try out and report on? E3 will never die.

Journalists and the media are at probably an all-time low in regards to the public trusting them due to mis-reportings, agendas, politics, staged things (like CNN faking a rescue of people from flood waters by hiring actors), etc. Journalism itself is dying as everything is becoming increasingly caught on camera and hot mics. You don't need to hire people to dig up dirt on something when that something is publically on display more and more as the years go by. 

I don't understand why people spread conspiracy theories that sound ridiculous, without looking up if they're true/have been debunked first.

You made a point about caught on camera and mics, yet the incorrect observation that lead to this Infowars conspiracy theory could have been avoided if they just paid attention to the end of the video where the reported said "Scott and Brian and I rescued this fellow".
That three people rescued the man.

Reporter Drew Griffin (wearing a red jacket and pants)
Photographer Scott Pisczek (wearing a black shirt and shorts)
Producer Brian Rokus (wearing a red jacket and shorts)

FACT CHECK: Did CNN Stage a Hurricane Harvey Rescue Video? (snopes.com)

But the conspiracy theory is that one person inexplicably changed his clothing for no apparent reason, and that the editors also left that in for no apparent reason, and that no one else in the CNN crew would wear a red CNN jacket...

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Probably wont dissapear, but likely in due time its just gonna shift the focus from videogames to a more general tech convention. Its already heading in that direction.
Which is fine I guess, when it comes to videogames I like it as its been these past years, with each company having its own direct whenever it is competent.

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Hiku said:

It's difficult to discount the Covid effect since planning for E3 apparently began later than it usually does. So companies would have less time to prepare their presentations.

When Sony first skipped E3, a common comment was that they did so because it was a transition year (to PS5) and that they had nothing to show.
Like I said back then, they've been through several transition years before, but never skipped. So I didn't think that was the major concern for them, but rather the reported disagreement between Sony and ESA, where Sony is one of the board members. Keeley also had his disagreements with ESA, and left.

I didn't expect Sony to come back, because even if ESA made some changes that would suit them, by the time they do that Sony will get a taste of how much money they can save by having their own presentation instead.

But unless other companies have similar problems with the direction of E3, they may stick around. Especially if the cost of attending E3 is lowered due to it no longer being the same live in-person event as before.

Dulfite said:

Journalists and the media are at probably an all-time low in regards to the public trusting them due to mis-reportings, agendas, politics, staged things (like CNN faking a rescue of people from flood waters by hiring actors), etc. Journalism itself is dying as everything is becoming increasingly caught on camera and hot mics. You don't need to hire people to dig up dirt on something when that something is publically on display more and more as the years go by. 

I don't understand why people spread conspiracy theories that sound ridiculous, without looking up if they're true/have been debunked first.

You made a point about caught on camera and mics, yet the incorrect observation that lead to this Infowars conspiracy theory could have been avoided if they just paid attention to the end of the video where the reported said "Scott and Brian and I rescued this fellow".
That three people rescued the man.

Reporter Drew Griffin (wearing a red jacket and pants)
Photographer Scott Pisczek (wearing a black shirt and shorts)
Producer Brian Rokus (wearing a red jacket and shorts)

FACT CHECK: Did CNN Stage a Hurricane Harvey Rescue Video? (snopes.com)

But the conspiracy theory is that one person inexplicably changed his clothing for no apparent reason, and that the editors also left that in for no apparent reason, and that no one else in the CNN crew would wear a red CNN jacket...

When you have an Agenda you aren't looking for facts. You are just hoping others don't look for facts also.  That is basically the basis between fake news. Say something and hope more people repeat it than people fact check it.

That said as far as the thread goes. What is the "definition" of E3.  If everyone just uploads (or streams) a video is that E3? "Summerfest" was the day before involving Elden ring etc. But that isn't consider part of "E3". One of the biggest announcements of the year one day before E3 - isn't part of E3.

Post covid I have no clue what E3 is anymore. Before E3 was a convention that allowed people and Journalist to mingle together. See a lot of booths, watch announcements get hand on video games etc.  Did that happen this year?

Sony releasing a video whenever they want will have the same "feel" as Nintendo or Microsoft - but they aren't part of E3. So it sounds like E3 is defined by a very strict schedule.



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