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This interesting video puts the US healthcare system into perspective

It is such a shock for Non-US citizens to see the healthcare costs for US citizens  

Currently the Biden administration with a Democratic majority is doing very little to change this despite Medicare for All (M4A) being hugely popular with voters of all stripes, it seems that making sure heartcare in the US remains a business is the most important outcome for the Dem Establishment 

Their faces :) 



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What about those of us that are shocked that it costs full stop? The amount is irrelevant, getting a bill at all for healthcare is a shock to me!



Over the last 19 months I've received diagnosis, numerous scans, radiation therapy, complex surgery, and months of post-operative therapy for nerve sheath cancer and it cost me a grand total of $0, it was all covered by Medicare.

I shudder to think what would've happened if I lived in the US. Universal health care should be a human right.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 28 April 2021

Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

LurkerJ said:

100 countries haven't started vaccinating meanwhile others have begun to vaccinate those below 30 and securing Pfizer supply for years to come. If I wasn't an immigrant, I wouldn't have been vaccinated either. I dunno what can be done about this and when does this problem get more attention?

I'll cross quote this here, unbelievable.

We have half free healthcare here (Canada). While doctor's visits and ER are free, medication is not. My wife is currently on $300 a month of life saving blood pressure meds. There is medication that might actually help her solve the root of the problem (rare underlying condition), but it's $250 a pill, to be taken daily, 0ver 90K per year. It's not made of diamond dust, made of patents.



curl-6 said:

Over the last 19 months I've received diagnosis, numerous scans, radiation therapy, complex surgery, and months of post-operative therapy for nerve sheath cancer and it cost me a grand total of $0, it was all covered by Medicare.

I shudder to think what would've happened if I lived in the US. Universal health care should be a human right.

I live in the US and my chemo treatments cost me $0 as well... Not sure how it works but all I had to do was show a card I didn't know I even had!..



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Not the first video about that theme, but yeah, I was shocked too when I first heard the prices in the US. In fact, I still am.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kll-yYQwmuM



To be fair, healthcare is very expensive even outside the US. It's highly specialised, requires complex machinery, you have multiple people per patient, 24 hours a day.

The US cost is usually double, but my understanding that is mostly to pay for Lawyers and Insurance companies. So money well spent I guess.

For things that are "not your own fault", it is entirely reasonable for the costs to be covered by society. I haven't been ill for years, but a friend had months of treatment for a brain tumour in his 20s. That's just the reality.



OneTime said:

To be fair, healthcare is very expensive even outside the US. It's highly specialised, requires complex machinery, you have multiple people per patient, 24 hours a day.

The US cost is usually double, but my understanding that is mostly to pay for Lawyers and Insurance companies. So money well spent I guess.

For things that are "not your own fault", it is entirely reasonable for the costs to be covered by society. I haven't been ill for years, but a friend had months of treatment for a brain tumour in his 20s. That's just the reality.

We're talking about being expensive to the consumer though, so it definitely isn't expensive outside the US. Not to mention all of what you said there is often not the case. I'd argue that things that require specialised care, machinery or a lot of doctors/nurses are the minority of cases.

The US cost is also definitely not double. It's orders of magnitude higher than other countries where people pay for healthcare, and effectively infinitely higher than countries with free healthcare. As an Englishman living in Japan I'm shocked at how expensive healthcare is here, yet every American I've ever met here raves about how cheap it is.



What the actual f? "Congratulations, ma'am, would you like to take your baby and hold him? That'll be forty bucks."
Is that real?



I'm privately insured since I'm a civil servant in Germany, so I'm receiving all the med bills and pay them before I send them to my insurance company and get my refund.
Before the private insurance I wouldn't get any bill at all so I had no clue what treatments really cost.

Some examples:
Tooth Extraction - 46 Euro
Coloscopy and lab analysis of "materials" - 900 Euro
10 min talking to doctor - 20 Euro
Cavity filling - 150 Euro

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