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A couple of weeks ago, Sony released a list of games that aren't backwards compatible on PS5, a small list of just 10 games:

  • Afro Samurai 2: Revenge of Kuma Volume One
  • DWVR
  • Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
  • Joe’s Diner
  • Just Deal With It!
  • Robinson: The Journey
  • Shadow Complex Remastered
  • Shadwen
  • TT Isle of Man — Ride on the Edge 2
  • We Sing

Today, Ubisoft released this statement about backwards compatibility on Xbox Series and PS5:

Most of our back catalogue of games will have backward compatibility between the next and current generation of consoles, with a few exceptions*. This means that you will be able to play your Xbox One game on Xbox Series X|S, or play your PlayStation®4 to PlayStation®5. On top of that, some of our backwards compatible games will have cross progression available within the same family of console: For Honor (with free graphical enhancements), The Division 2, The Crew 2 and the upcoming releases of Just Dance 2021 and Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time Remake.

* on Xbox Series X|S, all our Xbox One games will be backward compatible. On PlayStation®5, all games will be backward compatible except the following ones: Assassin’s Creed Syndicate, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles Trilogy Pack, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles India, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles China, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles Russia, Risk, Star Trek Bridge Crew, Werewolves Within, Space Junkies.

As you can see, none of those games from Ubisoft's statement were on Sony's original list. The PS Store listings for those Ubisoft games suggest that the games are backwards compatible, but "may have unexpected errors or behaviors on PS5". Somebody on Era ran a search on PS Store for all game listings that have the "may have unexpected errors or behaviors" tag, and found that the following roughly 100 games have this warning:

Spoiler!
  • Project CARS
  • DOOM Eternal
  • Zero Escape: The Nonary Games
  • Call of Duty®: Black Ops 4
  • Call of Duty®: Infinite Warfare
  • The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season
  • Batman: Return to Arkham
  • The Surge
  • Assetto Corsa
  • Sea of Solitude
  • Ghostbuster: The Video Game Remastered
  • Tropico 6 El Prez Edition
  • Mafia III
  • Mafia III: Definitive Edition
  • Mafia: Trilogy
  • EA SPORTS NHL 19
  • Werewolves Within
  • Dungeon Rushers
  • Need for Speed
  • Need for Speed™ Ultimate Bundle
  • Darius Cozmic Collection Arcade
  • SMITE
  • Metal Slug Anthology
  • EVE: Valkyrie
  • DOOM VFR
  • Dead Island Definitive Collection
  • Assassin's Creed® Chronicles: Russia
  • Assassin's Creed® Syndicate
  • Assassin's Creed® Syndicate Gold Edition
  • Assassin's Creed Chronicles – Trilogy
  • Star Trek™: Bridge Crew
  • Roundabout
  • Sleeping Dogs
  • NBA 2K19
  • NBA 2K19 + NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 Bundle
  • NBA 2K20
  • Valhalla Hills - Definitive Editiuons
  • SENRAN KAGURA Peach Beach Splash
  • SENRAN KAGURA Burst Re:Newal
  • SENRAN KAGURA Burst Re:Newal Shinobi Rivals Edition
  • SENRAN KAGURA ESTIVAL VERSUS
  • MLB® The Show™ 19
  • MLB The Show™ 18
  • MLB® The Show™ 17 All Star Edition
  • MLB® The Show 16™
  • Paddle Vs Paddle
  • Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
  • Dino Frontier
  • The Surge
  • Disney Classic Games: Aladdin and The Lion King
  • Manhunt
  • EA Family Bundle
  • DYNASTY WARRIORS 8 Empires
  • DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
  • Realm Royale Founder's Pack
  • Realm Royale Bass Drop Bundle
  • Realm Royale Cute But Deadly Pack
  • GRIP Digital Deluxe
  • Super Kids Racing
  • Pinball Arcade
  • The Escapists + The Escapists 2
  • Pure Pool
  • Pure Pool Snooker Bundle
  • The Pure Bundle
  • Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship
  • Tooth and Nail
  • Wired Horror Bundle
  • Wired Italian Adventure Bundle
  • Deliver Us The Moon Digital Deluxe
  • Shuttle Commander
  • Tennis World Tour
  • Tennis World Tour Legends Edition
  • Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship
  • OKAGE: Shadow King
  • Crossout
  • Eagle Flight and Werewolves Within PSVR Bundle
  • Everybody's Golf
  • Feral Fury
  • LittleBigPlanet 3
  • Saint Seiya Soldiers' Soul
  • Battlezone Gold Edition
  • WRC 8 FIA World Rally Championship
  • WRC 8 Deluxe Edition FIA World Rally Championship
  • RIGS Mechanized Combat League
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra
  • Doki-Doki Universe™
  • Dead Nation™ Apocalypse Edition
  • APB Reloaded
  • KickBeat Special Edition
  • Entwined™
  • The Warriors
  • True Fear: Forsaken Souls - Part 2
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra VR
  • The Golf Club 2019 featuring PGA TOUR
  • Ape Escape 2
  • Crossout
  • Active Soccer 2 DX
  • Frisky Business
  • Clan N
  • Let's Sing 2018
  • Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
  • Rockstar Games PS2™ Classics Bundle
  • How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
  • Close to the Sun
  • Operation Warcade
  • A Summer with the Shiba Inu
  • NOBUNAGA'S AMBITION: Sphere of Influence
  • Anomaly 2
  • Space Junkies
  • GRIP

Update: Ubisoft has temporarily pulled the Ubisoft Connect article which stated that those games were unplayable on PS5. It is likely that the titles are playable. It's possible that Ubisoft isn't happy with their performance, which is why they called them unplayable, because they don't want people blaming them if those games don't work correctly on PS5. 

Last edited by shikamaru317 - on 30 October 2020

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The constant tug of war of how much will be compatible. I think Sony started by saying virtually all would be, then at least 100 key games, then about 99%, and now this. But honestly I wonder what Sony's side of the story is.



Lifetime Sales Predictions 

PS4: 130 mil (was 100 million) Xbox One: 55 mil (was 50 mil) Switch: 110 million (was 73, then 96 million)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

"Let go your earthly tether, enter the void, empty and become wind." - Guru Laghima

Damn that Phil Spencer, always lying through his teeth about stuff!


Wait....I got them mixed up, don't I....
oh well, still, damn him



There are even some 1st party games on that list, several MLB games and Little Big Planet 3.



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So there are games among the thousands released on PS4 that they haven’t been able to fully test to see their behaviour...




True test is when I put a Senko No Ronde 2 disk in PS5 and see what happens.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Those games are still playable but are part of this list of games that "may exhibit errors or unexpected behavior and some features available on PS4 may be absent".



Sigh evil sony strikes again, lying to us all but having that label there for everyone to see.



 

shikamaru317 said:

A couple of weeks ago, Sony released a list of games that aren't backwards compatible on PS5, a small list of just 10 games:

  • Afro Samurai 2: Revenge of Kuma Volume One
  • DWVR
  • Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
  • Joe’s Diner
  • Just Deal With It!
  • Robinson: The Journey
  • Shadow Complex Remastered
  • Shadwen
  • TT Isle of Man — Ride on the Edge 2
  • We Sing

Today, Ubisoft released this statement about backwards compatibility on Xbox Series and PS5:

Most of our back catalogue of games will have backward compatibility between the next and current generation of consoles, with a few exceptions*. This means that you will be able to play your Xbox One game on Xbox Series X|S, or play your PlayStation®4 to PlayStation®5. On top of that, some of our backwards compatible games will have cross progression available within the same family of console: For Honor (with free graphical enhancements), The Division 2, The Crew 2 and the upcoming releases of Just Dance 2021 and Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time Remake.

* on Xbox Series X|S, all our Xbox One games will be backward compatible. On PlayStation®5, all games will be backward compatible except the following ones: Assassin’s Creed Syndicate, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles Trilogy Pack, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles India, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles China, Assassin’s Creed Chronicles Russia, Risk, Star Trek Bridge Crew, Werewolves Within, Space Junkies.

As you can see, none of those games from Ubisoft's statement were on Sony's original list. The PS Store listings for those Ubisoft games suggest that the games are backwards compatible, but "have unexpected errors or behaviors on PS5". Somebody on Era ran a search on PS Store for all game listings that have the "may have unexpected errors or behaviors" tag, and found that the following roughly 100 games have this warning:

Spoiler!
  • Project CARS
  • DOOM Eternal
  • Zero Escape: The Nonary Games
  • Call of Duty®: Black Ops 4
  • Call of Duty®: Infinite Warfare
  • The Walking Dead: The Complete First Season
  • Batman: Return to Arkham
  • The Surge
  • Assetto Corsa
  • Sea of Solitude
  • Ghostbuster: The Video Game Remastered
  • Tropico 6 El Prez Edition
  • Mafia III
  • Mafia III: Definitive Edition
  • Mafia: Trilogy
  • EA SPORTS NHL 19
  • Werewolves Within
  • Dungeon Rushers
  • Need for Speed
  • Need for Speed™ Ultimate Bundle
  • Darius Cozmic Collection Arcade
  • SMITE
  • Metal Slug Anthology
  • EVE: Valkyrie
  • DOOM VFR
  • Dead Island Definitive Collection
  • Assassin's Creed® Chronicles: Russia
  • Assassin's Creed® Syndicate
  • Assassin's Creed® Syndicate Gold Edition
  • Assassin's Creed Chronicles – Trilogy
  • Star Trek™: Bridge Crew
  • Roundabout
  • Sleeping Dogs
  • NBA 2K19
  • NBA 2K19 + NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 Bundle
  • NBA 2K20
  • Valhalla Hills - Definitive Editiuons
  • SENRAN KAGURA Peach Beach Splash
  • SENRAN KAGURA Burst Re:Newal
  • SENRAN KAGURA Burst Re:Newal Shinobi Rivals Edition
  • SENRAN KAGURA ESTIVAL VERSUS
  • MLB® The Show™ 19
  • MLB The Show™ 18
  • MLB® The Show™ 17 All Star Edition
  • MLB® The Show 16™
  • Paddle Vs Paddle
  • Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
  • Dino Frontier
  • The Surge
  • Disney Classic Games: Aladdin and The Lion King
  • Manhunt
  • EA Family Bundle
  • DYNASTY WARRIORS 8 Empires
  • DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
  • Realm Royale Founder's Pack
  • Realm Royale Bass Drop Bundle
  • Realm Royale Cute But Deadly Pack
  • GRIP Digital Deluxe
  • Super Kids Racing
  • Pinball Arcade
  • The Escapists + The Escapists 2
  • Pure Pool
  • Pure Pool Snooker Bundle
  • The Pure Bundle
  • Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship
  • Tooth and Nail
  • Wired Horror Bundle
  • Wired Italian Adventure Bundle
  • Deliver Us The Moon Digital Deluxe
  • Shuttle Commander
  • Tennis World Tour
  • Tennis World Tour Legends Edition
  • Pure Hold'em World Poker Championship
  • OKAGE: Shadow King
  • Crossout
  • Eagle Flight and Werewolves Within PSVR Bundle
  • Everybody's Golf
  • Feral Fury
  • LittleBigPlanet 3
  • Saint Seiya Soldiers' Soul
  • Battlezone Gold Edition
  • WRC 8 FIA World Rally Championship
  • WRC 8 Deluxe Edition FIA World Rally Championship
  • RIGS Mechanized Combat League
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra
  • Doki-Doki Universe™
  • Dead Nation™ Apocalypse Edition
  • APB Reloaded
  • KickBeat Special Edition
  • Entwined™
  • The Warriors
  • True Fear: Forsaken Souls - Part 2
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra
  • Super Stardust™ Ultra VR
  • The Golf Club 2019 featuring PGA TOUR
  • Ape Escape 2
  • Crossout
  • Active Soccer 2 DX
  • Frisky Business
  • Clan N
  • Let's Sing 2018
  • Until Dawn: Rush of Blood
  • Rockstar Games PS2™ Classics Bundle
  • How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
  • Close to the Sun
  • Operation Warcade
  • A Summer with the Shiba Inu
  • NOBUNAGA'S AMBITION: Sphere of Influence
  • Anomaly 2
  • Space Junkies
  • GRIP

Could you be more transparent? 😂

You say those games "have unexpected errors or behaviors on PS5" but the warning says they "may have unexpected errors or behaviours".

Are you trying to spread FUD?