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is this what will decide the future of gaming?
direct ingame sales removes royalty cut, OS developers butthurt
will this effect the royalty cut on all purchases?

what will happen with consoles THE END IS NEAR



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Mobile gamers who are unable to play Fortnite will buy consoles to play Fortnite. It's like a second COVID-19 lockdown boost.

The delicious irony is that Epic's push for more open platforms will push people towards closed platforms.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.

How much does Fortnite cost again? $0?

So the "fair" deal is that Apple and Google provide huge platforms for Epic, but Epic is the only company that is supposed to profit from it?



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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DonFerrari said:
That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.

the thing is on Android you have multiple stores aside from the google play store while not as big you still have options whereas on ios your fucked.

from a selfishpoint I wouldn't mind seeing uplay/origin/EGS/steam on my console or phone will save me tons of money having to rebuy games



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DonFerrari said:
That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.

When most mobile games are free to play, with it's income being based entirely on microtransactions, what you are proposing is the same as having no cut.

And when you allow other stores to be open on the platform you have built from the ground up and pay a team of a hundred+ engineers to keep updating and improving, not to mention the marketing you have to do to promote said platform, with no cut or a small one(that dosen't really justify the investment), who is going to built said platform in the first place? It is just going to discorage people from making awesome platforms that run well.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

People always wanna crap on the platform holders, but what Epic is doing is wrong.



DonFerrari said:
That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.

No. Fortnite is free to play. And the money it makes comes from mxt. 

You can't piggyback off a platform that a company spent billions and decades to build, use aid platform to reach n even wider audience, then now go onto cutting off the platform from making money from said game. 

What epic is doing here is vile.



Intrinsic said:
DonFerrari said:
That is an interesting battle. For me it is valid that Apple and Google receive comission for the app sold, but inside the purchases made inside the app shouldn`t keep giving revenue to them. And if the result of this is Playstation having to allow other stores inside it or even more broad, that anyone can release their game or app and Sony can`t block it, so be it.

No. Fortnite is free to play. And the money it makes comes from mxt. 

You can't piggyback off a platform that a company spent billions and decades to build, use aid platform to reach n even wider audience, then now go onto cutting off the platform from making money from said game. 

What epic is doing here is vile.

pardon? quite sure they make enough money on hardware and services to not charge 30% as does google.

while epic does smear apple here the idea behind it it great in theory.
suppose the cut goes to 15% that means devs get 15% more for the same amount of sales wich is good for the dev or if devs are chads give a discount

EDIT not saying epic is great but just saying NO because they tend to be scum aswell doesn't remove the fact that they have a darn good point:
 we need more options as consumers



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