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Nothing personal against Phil, its just my own opinion based on what he keeps saying:

1- Phil Spencer: "Exclusives doesn't matter."

Comment: all MS game showed on 23rd were either referring MS exclusives games or Launch exclusive games. In addition, if exclusives doesn't matter, then bring all XBOX games like Halo and Gears to other platforms like PS and Nintendo.

2- Phil Spencer: "frankly, held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition"

Halo Infinite appears to be held back by previous generation. Its not me only saying that, many saying that on youtube.

3- Phil Spencer: "If we’re going to spend energy, let’s go spend it on [growing the industry], not ‘my piece of plastic is better than your piece of plastic."

Nonetheless, all what Microsoft is talking about is the most powerful console (compared to other consoles) and the 12 teraflops power.

4- Phil Spencer: "You won't be forced into the next generation. We want every Xbox player to play all the new games from Xbox Game Studios"

Two days later: Xbox One X and XBox S digital edition end of life edition announced. So you either buy a 2013 Xbox One 7 years old console or buy Xbox Series x which is to me forcing gamers to new generation hardware since no one wants to play on a 7 years old hardware.

This is only my opinion based on what Phil actually said publicly.  MS has been trashed this generation and should have been ready for next generation. However, it appears MS is not ready and will lose again this generation.

For all the flack Don Mattrick gets for anti consumer policies, from a gaming perspective, they were ready for new generation and showed real exclusive games at launch and some people even rated there launch game higher than Sony's launch games.



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5 - Phil Spencer: Paying for a 3rd party game to be restricted only to one platform is bad for gaming community and very "anti consumer".

Phil Spencer: Were proud to announce we've got 22 timed exclusive games at lunch for our platform.

Welp..... Maybe he was sleep talking when he did this interviews idk XD

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Frank_kc said:

1- Phil Spencer: "Exclusives doesn't matter."

Comment: all MS game showed on 23rd were either referring MS exclusives games or Launch exclusive games. In addition, if exclusives doesn't matter, then bring all XBOX games like Halo and Gears to other platforms like PS and Nintendo.

Can you provide citation for that? I can only find an interview where he says he doesn't like exclusives. Not that they don't matter.

Some times people do what they must. Not what they like.

2- Phil Spencer: "frankly, held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition"

Halo Infinite appears to be held back by previous generation. Its not me only saying that, many saying that on youtube.

He wasn't suggesting that games are never held back, but questioning why people are putting weight on it. Because there are also upsides to cross generational games, like being able to play them on older hardware.

3- Phil Spencer: "If we’re going to spend energy, let’s go spend it on [growing the industry], not ‘my piece of plastic is better than your piece of plastic."

Nonetheless, all what Microsoft is talking about is the most powerful console (compared to other consoles) and the 12 teraflops power.

Well it's standard PR, but I think he's specifically referring to making direct comparisons in order to make someone else feel bad.
Saying Messi scored more goals than anyone this year, after he received an award for it is a bit different than harassing fans of another player and saying that Messi scored more goals than that player.

4- Phil Spencer: "You won't be forced into the next generation. We want every Xbox player to play all the new games from Xbox Game Studios"

Two days later: Xbox One X and XBox S digital edition end of life edition announced. So you either buy a 2013 Xbox One 7 years old console or buy Xbox Series x which is to me forcing gamers to new generation hardware since no one wants to play on a 7 years old hardware.

Xbox player is probably referring to people that already own an Xbox One. Although for those who don't, the Xbox One S has not been discontinued yet.



I stopped reading after Point 1.
If Exclusives meant that much than why does MS bring them all to the PC? Doesn't that answer the question? Competitive platforms are a different story and they still brought games across to them.
Also i don't remember Phil saying that.



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He's a business man. A PR guy. A Reggie wannabe. And as such, he's a hypocrite. His job is to sell you on a device or brand.



Twitter: @d21lewis

Frank_kc said:

Nothing personal against Phil, its just my own opinion based on what he keeps saying:

1- Phil Spencer: "Exclusives doesn't matter."

Comment: all MS game showed on 23rd were either referring MS exclusives games or Launch exclusive games. In addition, if exclusives doesn't matter, then bring all XBOX games like Halo and Gears to other platforms like PS and Nintendo.

2- Phil Spencer: "frankly, held back is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition"

Halo Infinite appears to be held back by previous generation. Its not me only saying that, many saying that on youtube.

3- Phil Spencer: "If we’re going to spend energy, let’s go spend it on [growing the industry], not ‘my piece of plastic is better than your piece of plastic."

Nonetheless, all what Microsoft is talking about is the most powerful console (compared to other consoles) and the 12 teraflops power.

4- Phil Spencer: "You won't be forced into the next generation. We want every Xbox player to play all the new games from Xbox Game Studios"

Two days later: Xbox One X and XBox S digital edition end of life edition announced. So you either buy a 2013 Xbox One 7 years old console or buy Xbox Series x which is to me forcing gamers to new generation hardware since no one wants to play on a 7 years old hardware.

This is only my opinion based on what Phil actually said publicly.  MS has been trashed this generation and should have been ready for next generation. However, it appears MS is not ready and will lose again this generation.

For all the flack Don Mattrick gets for anti consumer policies, from a gaming perspective, they were ready for new generation and showed real exclusive games at launch and some people even rated there launch game higher than Sony's launch games.

Assuming all of these are accurate, you have to look a little deeper.

Point 1: Which Xbox games are exclusive? They all run on PC and 8th/9th gen Xboxes. Maybe even mobile devices.

Point 2: Are high end PC games held back by low end PCs? There's minimum specs but I don't think they hurt higher end rigs with all the bells and whistles.

Point 3: Arguable. But at some point gaming needs to be like every other media. Any DVD will run on any DVD player. There's different quality machines but you get the experience. It's not "My Blu-ray player is better than yours". You just buy the software and you play it on whatever hardware you have. That's how I see it, anyway. 

Point 4: The original XBO from 2013 has already been discontinued (but still works great. I have two of them!). The Xbox One digital didn't sell well. The Xbox One X probably costs more to produce and isn't their best seller. The Xbox One S is still on the market and will still be supported got years to come. Saying that the Xbox One is abandoned because certain models are discontinued is like saying the PS3 was abandoned when the PS3 Slim was released.

He may be hypocritical or even a liar about some things but the points in the OP don't fall into that criteria, from my POV.



Twitter: @d21lewis

Despite his friendly nature. He isn't much better than what came before. He's made the console the most redundant in console history.  He has been poor at supervising projects leading to many cancelations/closing of studios and mediocre to bad games released. Marketing for XSX has not been great. The only thing he really has going for him is the ability to open MS checkbook.  Not a fan of that either.  I feel he made the Xbox brand boring. I swear if I hear him say the best lineup in Xbox history one more time. Xbox feels like a platform without an identity. Sony and Nintendo have est an identity. Xbox and 360 had one. All I can give Xbox as a brand these days is...it exists. He way overhyped things and underdelivers. Sure his job is to hype people up but you have to deliver as well. Phil seems like a nice guy but that is it.

I don't dislike modern Xbox brand. More like indifferent. I don't think I'm alone.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

First his tactic was to tell the stuff Fanboys wanted to hear but never delivering and still had the Fanboys praising him and calling him papa phill. Now he just trows shit at the wall in hopes it stocks, at this point i dont even think even the Fanboys believe anything it comes.out of his mouth. He his ten times worse than don mattrick . Bluffing master and liar is What he is.



 

Xbox started heavily influenced the tradition of locking online pay behind a paywall. When Sony and Nintendo both had free online, Microsoft continually marketed their paid online as superior to Sony's free online when it in fact wasn't. They did this so long that both Sony and Nintendo eventually decided to offer paid online.

But hey guys! Lack of Crossplay is pure evil, and MS is the good guys for implementing Crossplay, and is only looking out for the consumer, unlike that evil, evil Sony Corp!

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